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Old Aug 24, 2008, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by skywalkerLAX
Off to croatia !!
Oh yes, and on board a Q400/Dash8, being flouted on their homepage!
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by skywalkerLAX
Hmm.. too bad
Is OU having me on

I even find this text on the fare-conditions:

transfers/rtgs

2 free transfers permitted on the pricing unit
1 free in croatia in each direction
fare break and embedded surface sectors permitted on the
fare component.


fare-basis is CDOM , which is indeed a bit more expensive than direct flights (which are available from about 150€).
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by rorschi
fare-basis is CDOM , which is indeed a bit more expensive than direct flights (which are available from about 150€).
I found a C1 fare, but that one os way more expensive. Never seen CDOM.
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
I found a C1 fare, but that one os way more expensive. Never seen CDOM.
I repeat:

My dummy booking on www.croatiaairlines.com works - but no MR needed before Jan 09.

Can't say more - have no other source for this deal than the airline-website.
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
I found a C1 fare, but that one os way more expensive. Never seen CDOM.
It is a local unpublished market fare that may only be sold/ticketed in Croatia. Hence, it won't show in reservation systems outside of Croatia.

Here are the full fare rules:

Code:
 1 - psgr p1 adt                                   rules display
fare component  1    adt spudbv ou  cdom      pu 1 n
fcl: cdom      trf: 304 rule: 1ouf bk:  c
ptc: adt-adult              ftc: bu -business unrestricted
ru.rule application
ou domestic business fares within croatia
 application
   area
     these fares apply
     within croatia.
   class of service
     these fares apply for business class service.
   types of transportation
     fares governed by this rule can be used to create
     one-way/round-trip/circle-trip/open-jaw journeys.
 other conditions
   baggage allowance -
    - 20 kgs for adults/children
    - 10 kgs for infants
>


mn.min stay
  none unless otherwise specified

mx.max stay

  return travel from last stopover must commence no later
  than 12 months after departure from fare origin.

sr.sales restrict

  tickets must be issued on either the plate or stock of ou
  and may only be sold in croatia
  siti transactions required. extension of ticket validity
  is not permitted.
         note -
          sales restriction also applies to advertising

fl.flt application
*ty*
>
  the fare component must be on
      one or more of the following
        any ou flight.


cd.child discounts

  accompanied child 2-11 - charge 50 percent of the fare.
         note -
          age 11- means until accompanied child reaches
          his/her 12th birthday.
  or - unaccompanied child 5-11 - charge 50 percent of the
         fare.
         note -
          age 11- means until unaccompanied child reaches
          his/her 12th birthday.
  or - 1st infant under 2 without a seat - no charge
  or - infant under 2 with a seat - charge 50 percent of the
         fare.
*ty*
>
tc.tour conductor

  tour conductor - no discount.

ad.agts discounts

  agent - charge 25 percent of the fare
  or - agent - charge 50 percent of the fare.
         note -
            contact carrier for details

so.stopovers

  no stopovers permitted.

tf.transfers/rtgs

  2 free transfers permitted on the pricing unit
      1 free in croatia in each direction
    fare break and embedded surface sectors permitted on the
     fare component.
>
         note -
            when routing is attached to the fare-
            conditions of routing shall apply.

te.tkt endorsement

  the original and the reissued ticket must be annotated -
  ou only - in the endorsement box.

pe.penalties

  cancellations

    any time
      cancellations permitted for cancel/refund.
         note -
          in case of no show charge 50pct of the fare value.

  changes

    any time
>
      changes permitted for reissue/revalidation.
         note -
          in case of reissue same or higher fare may be used
          ----------
          in case of no show changes not permitted.


co.combinability
   add-ons not permitted.
  end-on-end
    end-on-end combinations permitted with domestic fares
    but are not permitted with international fares. validate
    all fare components. fares must be shown separately on
    the ticket. travel must be via the point of combination.
  open jaws/round trips/circle trips
    fares may be combined on a half round trip basis
    -to form single or double open jaws/round trips/circle
    trips.
   provided -
     combinations are with any fare for carrier ou in rule
      1ouf/2ouf/3ouf/5ouf in tariff
>
      ipreurd - within europe-domestic.
*ty*
>


 1 - psgr p1 adt                                   rules display
fare component  2    adt dbvspu ou  cdom      pu 2 n
fcl: cdom      trf: 304 rule: 1ouf bk:  c
ptc: adt-adult              ftc: bu -business unrestricted
ru.rule application
ou domestic business fares within croatia
 application
   area
     these fares apply
     within croatia.
   class of service
     these fares apply for business class service.
   types of transportation
     fares governed by this rule can be used to create
     one-way/round-trip/circle-trip/open-jaw journeys.
 other conditions
   baggage allowance -
    - 20 kgs for adults/children
    - 10 kgs for infants
>


mn.min stay
  none unless otherwise specified

mx.max stay

  return travel from last stopover must commence no later
  than 12 months after departure from fare origin.

sr.sales restrict

  tickets must be issued on either the plate or stock of ou
  and may only be sold in croatia
  siti transactions required. extension of ticket validity
  is not permitted.
         note -
          sales restriction also applies to advertising

fl.flt application
*ty*
>
  the fare component must be on
      one or more of the following
        any ou flight.


cd.child discounts

  accompanied child 2-11 - charge 50 percent of the fare.
         note -
          age 11- means until accompanied child reaches
          his/her 12th birthday.
  or - unaccompanied child 5-11 - charge 50 percent of the
         fare.
         note -
          age 11- means until unaccompanied child reaches
          his/her 12th birthday.
  or - 1st infant under 2 without a seat - no charge
  or - infant under 2 with a seat - charge 50 percent of the
         fare.
*ty*
>
tc.tour conductor

  tour conductor - no discount.

ad.agts discounts

  agent - charge 25 percent of the fare
  or - agent - charge 50 percent of the fare.
         note -
            contact carrier for details

so.stopovers

  no stopovers permitted.

tf.transfers/rtgs

  2 free transfers permitted on the pricing unit
      1 free in croatia in each direction
    fare break and embedded surface sectors permitted on the
     fare component.
>
         note -
            when routing is attached to the fare-
            conditions of routing shall apply.

te.tkt endorsement

  the original and the reissued ticket must be annotated -
  ou only - in the endorsement box.

pe.penalties

  cancellations

    any time
      cancellations permitted for cancel/refund.
         note -
          in case of no show charge 50pct of the fare value.

  changes

    any time
>
      changes permitted for reissue/revalidation.
         note -
          in case of reissue same or higher fare may be used
          ----------
          in case of no show changes not permitted.


co.combinability
   add-ons not permitted.
  end-on-end
    end-on-end combinations permitted with domestic fares
    but are not permitted with international fares. validate
    all fare components. fares must be shown separately on
    the ticket. travel must be via the point of combination.
  open jaws/round trips/circle trips
    fares may be combined on a half round trip basis
    -to form single or double open jaws/round trips/circle
    trips.
   provided -
     combinations are with any fare for carrier ou in rule
      1ouf/2ouf/3ouf/5ouf in tariff
>
      ipreurd - within europe-domestic.
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by rcs85551
It is a local unpublished market fare that may only be sold/ticketed in Croatia. Hence, it won't show in reservation systems outside of Croatia.
So, since you found a way to access the fare, I trust you can also book it?
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
So, since you found a way to access the fare, I trust you can also book it?
OMG, TFM

Why don't you book it the same way as I do - on www.croatiaairlines.com

Wieso einfach, wenn es kompliziert auch geht

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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by flysurfer
So, since you found a way to access the fare, I trust you can also book it?
You need to book and ticket in Croatia. The OU website has a Croatia POS which is probably the easiest way to use.

Originally Posted by rorschi
Why don't you book it the same way as I do - on www.croatiaairlines.com
Because some people prefer to have control over their own PNRs
Won't work in this case though.
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:26 pm
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so,
Anyone who can recommend as TA in Croatia?
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by rcs85551
Because some people prefer to have control over their own PNRs
Exactly.
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Old Aug 24, 2008, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by rcs85551
Won't work in this case though.
I can go up to the very last step ("buy ticket") - but don't want to loose the Ticket Service Charge, so I didn't purchase a ticket yet. Do I have to expect an error message when buying the ticket?

Otherwise we have to find a TA in Croatia...

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BTW: Good night, my last coffe-cup is empty now.

Last edited by rorschi; Aug 24, 2008 at 4:52 pm
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 2:27 am
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It is interesting. Even if you go to croatiaairlines.com and try booking via the german pages, they give you this fare. But looking into the restriction, they indeed write, that the ticket has to be sold in croatia.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 4:21 am
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Well if plans get more definete for anyone collecting miles this year then I would be up for it.

Collected 6000 easy miles today. UA rebooked my mileage F ticket into full fare which is 1745x3 for ORD-LAX plus exec bonus
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by skywalkerLAX
Well if plans get more definete for anyone collecting miles this year then I would be up for it.
I have serious planings for the first october weekend, but I am not sure yet. But for the moment, I think that the less painful way is some CDG-MXP-fun with LX in J and a FRA-CDG (or some other origin) with LH in S via Ltur.
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Old Aug 25, 2008, 9:05 am
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The story was a couple years ago the sales rep for the Vatican wanted an HON card for the Pope. It went to Mr. Mayrhuber who thought about it for a week or so, and decided that the policy of absolutely no HON comps should be consistent, so he turned it down. The story is as word got around that the Pope couldn't get a comped HON card, pretty much everyone in LH considers it a lost cause to ask no matter who their client/account
The Pope. Asked for a HON card . And The Wolf turned it down . And it even took him "one week or so" to think it over ! Good one!

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