[NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your Lufthansa Group Questions Here [2016-]
Oct 9, 2023, 4:16 am
#5236
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Here, there, everywhere
Programs: UA 1K, Marriot Gold
Posts: 44
It's been a while since it was discussed, but can I access a lounge in Dusseldorf as a UA*1k on a Eurowings ticket on my outbound (my inbound is in LH via FRA, which is much easier)? Flight connections are absolute garbage on my dates hence the 5h15mins layover in DUS are actually the best option.
Oct 9, 2023, 4:30 am
#5237
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,363
It's been a while since it was discussed, but can I access a lounge in Dusseldorf as a UA*1k on a Eurowings ticket on my outbound (my inbound is in LH via FRA, which is much easier)? Flight connections are absolute garbage on my dates hence the 5h15mins layover in DUS are actually the best option.
Note that this is for EW (Eurowings), not 4Y (Discover, formerly Eurowings Discover)
Oct 9, 2023, 7:02 am
#5238
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,441
EW used to have the rules on NH/AC/UA elite access on their website, but that is gone in a new version: https://www.eurowings.com/en/your-re...e/lounges.html
Oct 9, 2023, 7:14 am
#5239
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,363
EW used to have the rules on NH/AC/UA elite access on their website, but that is gone in a new version: https://www.eurowings.com/en/your-re...e/lounges.html
Oct 11, 2023, 2:11 pm
#5240
Join Date: Feb 2022
Programs: OS SEN, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 329
If I buy a refundable fare multi-city ticket in business class D fare outbound and P fare inbound, and then a P fare on the outbound opens up at a later date, can I downgrade from the D fare to the P fare and be refunded the cost difference?
Oct 12, 2023, 1:13 am
#5241
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 1,344
If I am coming into fra in F (long haul) and departing same day in 'business' (short haul) faq says I would be eligible assuming it's on lx/lh.
What about the Porsche ride? My last experience departing straight out of fra in f wasn't so great as I was jammed into a Mercedes van w 4 other passengers from fct
What about the Porsche ride? My last experience departing straight out of fra in f wasn't so great as I was jammed into a Mercedes van w 4 other passengers from fct
Last edited by kaiotes; Oct 12, 2023 at 1:20 am
Oct 12, 2023, 1:24 am
#5242
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Geneva
Programs: LX SEN, AFKL Platinum, BA Bronze,
Posts: 5,775
If I am coming into fra in F (long haul) and departing same day in 'business' (short haul) faq says I would be eligible assuming it's on lx/lh.
What about the Porsche ride? My last experience departing straight out of fra in f wasn't so great as I was jammed into a Mercedes van w 4 other passengers from fct
What about the Porsche ride? My last experience departing straight out of fra in f wasn't so great as I was jammed into a Mercedes van w 4 other passengers from fct
Oct 12, 2023, 3:06 am
#5243
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke on Trent, UK (MAN ), BUE, BKK, DBV
Programs: LH HON***,UA,BA.EK Gold,AV.
Posts: 11,878
If I am coming into fra in F (long haul) and departing same day in 'business' (short haul) faq says I would be eligible assuming it's on lx/lh.
What about the Porsche ride? My last experience departing straight out of fra in f wasn't so great as I was jammed into a Mercedes van w 4 other passengers from fct
What about the Porsche ride? My last experience departing straight out of fra in f wasn't so great as I was jammed into a Mercedes van w 4 other passengers from fct
Oct 12, 2023, 3:12 am
#5244
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,441
Only if the D fare is full flex and allows refaring.
Oct 12, 2023, 6:42 am
#5246
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,441
The fare conditions will tell. The fare name will quickly tell you what the deal is. In the example of LON HKG D fares you have 3 D fares filed:
FF has the following clause in the penalty fare rules under changes:
RC and NC have this clause: (changes cost 250GBP on these fares)
Code:
12OCT23**12OCT23/LH LONHKG/NSP;EH/TPM 5970/MPM 8175 *** FOR STAR ALLIANCE RTW* SEE FQD XYZXYZ EG:FRAFRA *** LN FARE BASIS OW GBP RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R 01+DFFOWGB 2695 D - - - + + - - R 02+DRCOWGB 2551 D + - - + + - - R 03+DNCOWGB 2407 D NRF - - + + - - R 04+DFFGB 3256 D - - - + + - 12M R 05+DRCGB 3076 D + - - + + - 12M R 06+DNCGB 2896 D NRF - - + + - 12M R
Code:
IN CASE OF UPGRADING TO A HIGHER RETURN/ONE WAY
FARE THE FARE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED.
-----------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF DOWNGRADING TO A LOWER RETURN/ONE WAY
FARE A CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
-----------------------------------------------
IF APPLICABLE - COLLECT THE CHANGE FEE AND CHARGE
THE FARE DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGHER FARE.
Code:
WHEN CHANGES ARE MADE AND THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED
BOOKING CLASS ARE KEPT THE NEW FARE MAY BE LOWER/
EQUAL OR HIGHER. ANY RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE
IGNORED.
-----------------------------------------------
WHEN CHANGES ARE MADE AND THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED
BOOKING CLASS CHANGED THE NEW FARE MAY ONLY
BE EQUAL OR HIGHER.
-----------------------------------------------
IF APPLICABLE - COLLECT THE CHANGE FEE AND CHARGE
THE FARE DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGHER FARE.
Oct 12, 2023, 1:17 pm
#5247
Join Date: Feb 2022
Programs: OS SEN, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 329
The fare conditions will tell. The fare name will quickly tell you what the deal is. In the example of LON HKG D fares you have 3 D fares filed:
FF has the following clause in the penalty fare rules under changes:
RC and NC have this clause: (changes cost 250GBP on these fares)
Code:
12OCT23**12OCT23/LH LONHKG/NSP;EH/TPM 5970/MPM 8175 *** FOR STAR ALLIANCE RTW* SEE FQD XYZXYZ EG:FRAFRA *** LN FARE BASIS OW GBP RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R 01+DFFOWGB 2695 D - - - + + - - R 02+DRCOWGB 2551 D + - - + + - - R 03+DNCOWGB 2407 D NRF - - + + - - R 04+DFFGB 3256 D - - - + + - 12M R 05+DRCGB 3076 D + - - + + - 12M R 06+DNCGB 2896 D NRF - - + + - 12M R
FF has the following clause in the penalty fare rules under changes:
Code:
IN CASE OF UPGRADING TO A HIGHER RETURN/ONE WAY FARE THE FARE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ----------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF DOWNGRADING TO A LOWER RETURN/ONE WAY FARE A CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE. ----------------------------------------------- IF APPLICABLE - COLLECT THE CHANGE FEE AND CHARGE THE FARE DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGHER FARE.
RC and NC have this clause: (changes cost 250GBP on these fares)
Code:
WHEN CHANGES ARE MADE AND THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CLASS ARE KEPT THE NEW FARE MAY BE LOWER/ EQUAL OR HIGHER. ANY RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE IGNORED. ----------------------------------------------- WHEN CHANGES ARE MADE AND THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CLASS CHANGED THE NEW FARE MAY ONLY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER. ----------------------------------------------- IF APPLICABLE - COLLECT THE CHANGE FEE AND CHARGE THE FARE DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGHER FARE.
Thanks!
Oct 14, 2023, 10:31 am
#5249
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
Greetings , new to Miles and More,
I was just looking to book a flight. I have a M&M credit card and I accrued about 165000 miles. My understanding was that I was able to book a roundtrip flight to Europe for 60000 miles plus taxes and fees with Lufthansa.
Through the Miles and More website they only book me on Austrian, no idea why. And when I tried to purchase a ticket through Lufthansa, the want me to use all my miles plus lots of cash. This is definitively not what I signed up for.
What am I missing? is there a particular place of unwritten rules that i do not know about? Any hep would be greatly appreciated!
I was just looking to book a flight. I have a M&M credit card and I accrued about 165000 miles. My understanding was that I was able to book a roundtrip flight to Europe for 60000 miles plus taxes and fees with Lufthansa.
Through the Miles and More website they only book me on Austrian, no idea why. And when I tried to purchase a ticket through Lufthansa, the want me to use all my miles plus lots of cash. This is definitively not what I signed up for.
What am I missing? is there a particular place of unwritten rules that i do not know about? Any hep would be greatly appreciated!
Oct 14, 2023, 12:10 pm
#5250
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,363
When you try to purchase with LH, you are not purchasing an award ticket, you are using miles to convert to cash price, which is (generally) a lot worse value.
You need to go through M&M. They will give you availability on whatever they have, no idea how the process goes there. Maybe whatever the "bid price" is the lowest for them to pay out to the airline?
Also, consider LOT as well. Their fees and taxes for award tickets are lower.
You need to go through M&M. They will give you availability on whatever they have, no idea how the process goes there. Maybe whatever the "bid price" is the lowest for them to pay out to the airline?
Also, consider LOT as well. Their fees and taxes for award tickets are lower.