New European Economy Fares [HBO/light topics merged]
Dec 8, 2015, 5:34 am
#107
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Hrpf... need to fly to BRU on Friday for a adhoc meeting with a DG and see these options:
That LH and others charge 450-500€ for a short term day trip is no surprise, been there, done that.
But various questions come up:
- q is available, but has no fare filed?
- I'm travelling HBO but need flexibility, in case the date doesn't happen, so I have to pay 20 more to cancel with 65€ penalty, or pay 80+ more to cancel without penalty...?
Code:
1 LH2282 Q 11DEC 5 MUCBRU HK1 2 0710 0830 E95 E 0 S
OPERATED BY CL
MAX 1 HANDLUGGAGE PER PASSENGER
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA CITYLINE
SEE RTSVC
2 LH2287 Q 11DEC 5 BRUMUC HK1 1320 1440 319 E 0 S
SEE RTSVC
>fxa
FXA
* FARE BASIS * DISC * PSGR * FARE<EUR> * MSG *T
01 JCOUPON * * P1 * 2295.69 * *Y
02 J77 * * P1 * 2291.69 * *Y
03 YCOUPON * * P1 * 1775.69 * *Y
04 Y77+U63FL* * * P1 * 1278.69 * *Y
05 D85BUZ0A+* * * P1 * 924.69 * *Y
06 B63FLX0A+* * * P1 * 894.69 * *Y
07 B63CLS0A+* * * P1 * 839.69 * *Y
08 U63FLX0A * * P1 * 784.69 * *Y
09 B63LGT0A+* * * P1 * 699.69 * *Y
10 H63FLX0A+* * * P1 * 619.69 * *Y
11 U63CLS0A+* * * P1 * 609.69 * *Y
12 U63LGT0A+* * * P1 * 589.69 * *Y
13 H63CLS0A+* * * P1 * 564.69 * *Y
14 H63LGT0A * * P1 * 544.69 * *Y
*1,3*TICKET STOCK RESTRICTION
FARE FAMILIES: (FOR MORE DETAILS: FQFn)
*4,6,8*FARE FAMILIES: FLEX
*5*FARE FAMILIES: BUSINESS ,FLEX
> PAGE 1/ 2
>m
*7*FARE FAMILIES: CLASSIC ,FLEX
*9,12,14*FARE FAMILIES: LIGHT
*10*FARE FAMILIES: FLEX ,LIGHT
*11,13*FARE FAMILIES: CLASSIC ,LIGHT
But various questions come up:
- q is available, but has no fare filed?
- I'm travelling HBO but need flexibility, in case the date doesn't happen, so I have to pay 20 more to cancel with 65€ penalty, or pay 80+ more to cancel without penalty...?
Dec 8, 2015, 6:36 am
#108
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Hrpf... need to fly to BRU on Friday for a adhoc meeting with a DG and see these options:
That LH and others charge 450-500€ for a short term day trip is no surprise, been there, done that.
But various questions come up:
- q is available, but has no fare filed?
- I'm travelling HBO but need flexibility, in case the date doesn't happen, so I have to pay 20 more to cancel with 65€ penalty, or pay 80+ more to cancel without penalty...?
Code:
1 LH2282 Q 11DEC 5 MUCBRU HK1 2 0710 0830 E95 E 0 S
OPERATED BY CL
MAX 1 HANDLUGGAGE PER PASSENGER
OPERATED BY LUFTHANSA CITYLINE
SEE RTSVC
2 LH2287 Q 11DEC 5 BRUMUC HK1 1320 1440 319 E 0 S
SEE RTSVC
>fxa
FXA
* FARE BASIS * DISC * PSGR * FARE<EUR> * MSG *T
01 JCOUPON * * P1 * 2295.69 * *Y
02 J77 * * P1 * 2291.69 * *Y
03 YCOUPON * * P1 * 1775.69 * *Y
04 Y77+U63FL* * * P1 * 1278.69 * *Y
05 D85BUZ0A+* * * P1 * 924.69 * *Y
06 B63FLX0A+* * * P1 * 894.69 * *Y
07 B63CLS0A+* * * P1 * 839.69 * *Y
08 U63FLX0A * * P1 * 784.69 * *Y
09 B63LGT0A+* * * P1 * 699.69 * *Y
10 H63FLX0A+* * * P1 * 619.69 * *Y
11 U63CLS0A+* * * P1 * 609.69 * *Y
12 U63LGT0A+* * * P1 * 589.69 * *Y
13 H63CLS0A+* * * P1 * 564.69 * *Y
14 H63LGT0A * * P1 * 544.69 * *Y
*1,3*TICKET STOCK RESTRICTION
FARE FAMILIES: (FOR MORE DETAILS: FQFn)
*4,6,8*FARE FAMILIES: FLEX
*5*FARE FAMILIES: BUSINESS ,FLEX
> PAGE 1/ 2
>m
*7*FARE FAMILIES: CLASSIC ,FLEX
*9,12,14*FARE FAMILIES: LIGHT
*10*FARE FAMILIES: FLEX ,LIGHT
*11,13*FARE FAMILIES: CLASSIC ,LIGHT
But various questions come up:
- q is available, but has no fare filed?
- I'm travelling HBO but need flexibility, in case the date doesn't happen, so I have to pay 20 more to cancel with 65€ penalty, or pay 80+ more to cancel without penalty...?
H is cheapest fare without minimum stay.
Also, if you append a segment MUC-PRG on the end, your fare will drop by 115 euro to 430 total
Last edited by JanoSicek; Dec 8, 2015 at 6:42 am
Dec 8, 2015, 7:36 am
#109
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When I ask it to show flexible/refundable fares, our corporate booking portal (based on cyrtic) gets really confused:
Dec 8, 2015, 9:04 am
#111
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OK, the appointment luckily got confirmed today itself so booked the light HBO version for 541€. It seems we have a 11€ discount on the base fare to soften the blow of 8€OPC and 16€GDS. 
Dec 15, 2015, 8:20 am
#117
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Just look at your fare in the ticket, light fares show up as 'LGT' in the text, eg KLGTxxx. Classic is CLS, flex FLX.
Dec 15, 2015, 1:32 pm
#118
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For the 15 000 Euros I spend on LH-Group a year the can't even value me with sending my luggage the few times a year I will fly Intra-Europe on Flex. ^
Dec 15, 2015, 2:19 pm
#119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warakorn
By default, you are always booked into LIGHT. -> no free bag, even with status
It's utterly ridiculous that FTL/SEN/HON can't send luggage. The new "light" class is the same as the old cheapest eco when it comes to price - at least on my FF-segments.
For the 15 000 Euros I spend on LH-Group a year the can't even value me with sending my luggage the few times a year I will fly Intra-Europe on Flex.
Originally Posted by warakorn
By default, you are always booked into LIGHT. -> no free bag, even with status
It's utterly ridiculous that FTL/SEN/HON can't send luggage. The new "light" class is the same as the old cheapest eco when it comes to price - at least on my FF-segments.
For the 15 000 Euros I spend on LH-Group a year the can't even value me with sending my luggage the few times a year I will fly Intra-Europe on Flex.
Dec 22, 2015, 9:02 am
#120
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I'm not a fan either...this new "Extortion Light" fare is nothing but a new fee grab. Shame on LH!