New European Economy Fares [HBO/light topics merged]
Nov 12, 2015, 8:34 am
#76
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Nov 12, 2015, 8:37 am
#77
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Nov 12, 2015, 12:16 pm
#79
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Nov 12, 2015, 12:56 pm
#80
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Unrelated to the LH economy fares, but LOT has an opt out for FTL access on non-integrated airlines (FTL with TK, A3 or SK boarding pass can go and evaluate his carrier choices in the public terminal).
Nov 12, 2015, 3:21 pm
#81
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Nov 13, 2015, 1:36 am
#82
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If you book a flight with LH that is operated by 4U, 4U will only grant lounge access at so called "BEST departure points". As it turns out e.g. WAW isn't one of them. I.e. even though you may have spent in excess of EUR 700 on lh.com for an intra-European P2P-flight on a LH group carrier that for some random reason is not LH mainline there is a chance LH might find it a bit excessive to grant you lounge access.
Nov 15, 2015, 12:29 am
#83
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It seems that the light fares are used when booked on OTA and there is no way to select the classic one nor add baggage. Does anybody know if the baggage can be added to the reservation later on lh.com? Lufthansa has a not so clear message that the checked baggage on a light fare is 15 EUR when booked on lh.com, at the Service Center, or a travel agency. What if the "travel agency" does not have an interface for this purchase? Is the only option a 30 EUR fee at the airport?
I hate booking low-cost carriers because of the convoluted fees and baggage rules. Now Lufthansa joined this club with the same mess.
I hate booking low-cost carriers because of the convoluted fees and baggage rules. Now Lufthansa joined this club with the same mess.
Nov 25, 2015, 1:14 pm
#87
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Just wanted to post my personal experience with a Swiss Economy light fare. I had assumed wrongly that even with the stated "no checked luggage", a *G member would get a +1 to their checked baggage allowance.
However, when I checked in today for a Swiss short haul flight on an economy light fare, I still had to pay for a piece of luggage as a *G.
It turns out that european "Economy Light" fares are specifically excluded from the extra baggage allowance usually afforded to *G members on the Star Alliance's Gold member webpage: http://www.staralliance.com/en/gold-status
It states in the Extra Baggage Allowance section: "For travel within Europe on “Light” fares offered by Lufthansa, Austrian & SWISS and “Check&Go” fares offered by Brussels Airlines, the extra baggage allowance will not be offered."
However, when I checked in today for a Swiss short haul flight on an economy light fare, I still had to pay for a piece of luggage as a *G.
It turns out that european "Economy Light" fares are specifically excluded from the extra baggage allowance usually afforded to *G members on the Star Alliance's Gold member webpage: http://www.staralliance.com/en/gold-status
It states in the Extra Baggage Allowance section: "For travel within Europe on “Light” fares offered by Lufthansa, Austrian & SWISS and “Check&Go” fares offered by Brussels Airlines, the extra baggage allowance will not be offered."
Nov 27, 2015, 6:59 am
#88
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I was just looking at a next day flight that is almost full with just full fare (B) fares remaining.
However they are still selling light classic and flex. My question is, compared to how things were before: are you getting a discount by purchasing a light fare (say if you dont need bags) OR is the price for the light fare the same as previously but now there's the added fees for the "benefits".
See attached screen shots to see what I mean.
B is supposed to be a full fare bucket, I don't see how it could be stripped of the ability to change or get a refund.
However they are still selling light classic and flex. My question is, compared to how things were before: are you getting a discount by purchasing a light fare (say if you dont need bags) OR is the price for the light fare the same as previously but now there's the added fees for the "benefits".
See attached screen shots to see what I mean.
B is supposed to be a full fare bucket, I don't see how it could be stripped of the ability to change or get a refund.
Nov 27, 2015, 7:37 am
#90
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Code:
27NOV15**27NOV15/LH BCNFRA/NSP;EH/TPM 679/MPM 814
** YOUTH DISCOUNT APPLICABLE ON LH SPECIAL FARE **
LN FARE BASIS OW EUR RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01+B64FLX9A 451 B 65+ - - + - - - R
02+B64CLS9A 416 B NRF - - + - - - R
03+B64LGT9A 396 B NRF - - + - - - R
04+B64FLX0A 727 B 120+ - - + - - 12M R
05+B64CLS0A 657 B NRF - - + - - 12M R
06+B64LGT0A 617 B NRF - - + - - 12M R
> PAGE 2/ 2
>fqn3*pe
FQN3*PE
** RULES DISPLAY ** TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
27NOV15**27NOV15/LH BCNFRA/NSP;EH/TPM 679/MPM 814
LN FARE BASIS OW EUR RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
03+B64LGT9A 396 B NRF - - + - - - R
FCL: B64LGT9A TRF: 21 RULE: LGA2 BK: B
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XAN-NON REFUNDABLE APEX
FARE FAMILY : LIGHT
PE.PENALTIES
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE.
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REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF
REJECTION OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.
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>m
REFUND RULES APPLY PER FARE COMPONENT.
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES PERMITTED.
UNLESS APPLICABLE OW/RT FARE PLUS TAXES FOR
ACTUAL TRAVEL IS HIGHER THAN WHOLE ORIGINAL
TICKET. IN THIS CASE NO TAX OR FEE REFUND WILL BE
PERMITTED.
SHOULD THE FARE FOR THE ACTUAL FLOWN TRAVEL
BE HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL PAID FARE AMOUNT
THE FARE DIFFERENCE MUST BE COLLECTED.
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FOR NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS THE YQ
INTERNATIONAL/DOMESTIC SURCHARGE WILL NOT BE
REFUNDED.
FOR NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS THE YR
INTERNATIONAL/DOMESTIC SURCHARGE WILL NOT BE
REFUNDED.
THIS ALSO INCLUDES LH/LX/OS/SN DCC - DISTRIBUTION
COST CHARGE- /AD INTERIM SHOWN AS YR ON THE
TICKET/.
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THE OPTIONAL PAYMENT CHARGE IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE.
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RULES FOR CHANGES APPLY BY FARE
COMPONENT/DIRECTION. IN CASE OF FARE COMBINATION
CHARGE THE HIGHEST FEE OF CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
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REISSUE/REVALIDATION/REROUTING/REBOOKING/NO-SHOW
NOT PERMITTED.
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