New First class retrofit info
Jul 27, 2011, 12:48 pm
#751
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: SK Diamond
Posts: 384
Flew with new first last week on 744 "Bremen", and I must say it beats most out there. I find it better than both pods and suites, and together with LH ground products in FRA&MUC, it is a killer combo.
I will write a trip report with lots of pictures, and I might post it here as well.
I might combine a NH+LH(old&new)+LX+TG in F with LH, LX, TG, SQ and QR in C and write a long one when I find the time.
I will write a trip report with lots of pictures, and I might post it here as well.
I might combine a NH+LH(old&new)+LX+TG in F with LH, LX, TG, SQ and QR in C and write a long one when I find the time.
Jul 27, 2011, 5:39 pm
#752
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Programs: AA Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 592
confused about the 747 retrofit
i am a bit confused about the 747 F retrofit. i am looking at some flights and the seat map shows 8 seats in F. does that mean its the new seat + bed? i think i read somewhere that they are giving everybody 2 seats on the older versions. that would not be as much fun.
i really want to try the new F, but am not seeing any availability out of JFK. I see some availability out of DEN, and i am thinking of doing NYC-DEN-FRA.
i really want to try the new F, but am not seeing any availability out of JFK. I see some availability out of DEN, and i am thinking of doing NYC-DEN-FRA.
Jul 27, 2011, 7:18 pm
#753
Join Date: Apr 2006
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i am a bit confused about the 747 F retrofit. i am looking at some flights and the seat map shows 8 seats in F. does that mean its the new seat + bed? i think i read somewhere that they are giving everybody 2 seats on the older versions. that would not be as much fun.
i really want to try the new F, but am not seeing any availability out of JFK. I see some availability out of DEN, and i am thinking of doing NYC-DEN-FRA.
i really want to try the new F, but am not seeing any availability out of JFK. I see some availability out of DEN, and i am thinking of doing NYC-DEN-FRA.
Brian
Jul 28, 2011, 1:49 am
#754
Join Date: May 2003
Location: australia
Posts: 438
A346
Just wondering since it is currently summer 2011 and reading the information posted when would one expect the next A346 to go in for new first, just hoping to increase ones chances to 20% of getting new first to ICN.
Thanks
Thanks
Jul 28, 2011, 7:48 am
#755
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ekartash
Be aware that even with the old version, the extra seat is made up into a bed if you don't intend to use it to sit next to the window. Either unused seat can be made into a bed throughout the flight, it's up to you.
I'm puzzled about your coment about lack of F availability out of JFK, forcing you to route yourself NYC-DEN-FRA
Are you talking aout free award seats (understandable). But if you are referring to paid F that would be newsworthy
i am a bit confused about the 747 F retrofit. i am looking at some flights and the seat map shows 8 seats in F. does that mean its the new seat + bed? i think i read somewhere that they are giving everybody 2 seats on the older versions. that would not be as much fun.
i really want to try the new F, but am not seeing any availability out of JFK. I see some availability out of DEN, and i am thinking of doing NYC-DEN-FRA.
i really want to try the new F, but am not seeing any availability out of JFK. I see some availability out of DEN, and i am thinking of doing NYC-DEN-FRA.
I'm puzzled about your coment about lack of F availability out of JFK, forcing you to route yourself NYC-DEN-FRA
Are you talking aout free award seats (understandable). But if you are referring to paid F that would be newsworthy
Jul 28, 2011, 11:17 am
#756
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New York
Programs: AA Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 592
ekartash
Be aware that even with the old version, the extra seat is made up into a bed if you don't intend to use it to sit next to the window. Either unused seat can be made into a bed throughout the flight, it's up to you.
I'm puzzled about your coment about lack of F availability out of JFK, forcing you to route yourself NYC-DEN-FRA
Are you talking aout free award seats (understandable). But if you are referring to paid F that would be newsworthy
Be aware that even with the old version, the extra seat is made up into a bed if you don't intend to use it to sit next to the window. Either unused seat can be made into a bed throughout the flight, it's up to you.
I'm puzzled about your coment about lack of F availability out of JFK, forcing you to route yourself NYC-DEN-FRA
Are you talking aout free award seats (understandable). But if you are referring to paid F that would be newsworthy
Jul 28, 2011, 1:14 pm
#757
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Jul 28, 2011, 8:05 pm
#758
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 163
I did read somehwere that they were expecting to have around 10 done over Winter 2011/12.
The one new A346 is FRA based so you never know...
Jul 28, 2011, 11:12 pm
#759
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Location: 150km from MAN
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I too will be on a A346 from ICN-FRA and FRA-EWr next April so hoping by then there will be a few of the new F birds flying around.
I did read somehwere that they were expecting to have around 10 done over Winter 2011/12.
The one new A346 is FRA based so you never know...
I did read somehwere that they were expecting to have around 10 done over Winter 2011/12.
The one new A346 is FRA based so you never know...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16760136-post731.html
Jul 29, 2011, 1:44 am
#760
Join Date: May 2003
Location: australia
Posts: 438
One more A346 to be retrofitted during the summer of 2011. Ten 747s to be retrofitted during 2011.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16760136-post731.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16760136-post731.html
Jul 30, 2011, 3:21 am
#761
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Programs: TK Gold, Etihad Gold, Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold, IHG Gold.
Posts: 798
I too am flying FRA - ICN, but in September 2011. I was hoping to get new F, but it looks like it will be old F class.
Cheers,
Timo
Cheers,
Timo
Jul 30, 2011, 7:04 am
#762
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 53
Am flying on the 12 of August 2011 FRA - ICN in First. When do I know whether it will be the new first class? Where can I look it up? Please help.
Thank you
Thank you
Jul 30, 2011, 7:24 am
#763
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Malta
Programs: Skywards Silver
Posts: 550
D-ABVO is ready, D-ABVR is next.
Jul 30, 2011, 7:35 am
#764
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Great! I've updated my list. 
747 : 17.2% chance
5 retrofitted so far: D-ABVC, D-ABVH, D-ABVN, D-ABVP, D-ABVO
D-ABVR currently being retrofitted.
10 to be retrofitted in 2011, out of 23 planned. 7 will not be retrofitted.
A346 : 10% chance ex-FRA (0% chance ex-MUC)
1 retrofitted so far: D-AIHT, out of 1 planned for 2010/11. 1 more planned during summer 2011.
A343 : 10% chance ex-FRA (0% chance ex-MUC)
1 retrofitted so far: D-AIFD, out of 1 planned for 2010/11.
Click on the registration to check which routes these birds have flown recently (although as you will see the information may not be 100% accurate).
747 : 17.2% chance
5 retrofitted so far: D-ABVC, D-ABVH, D-ABVN, D-ABVP, D-ABVO
D-ABVR currently being retrofitted.
10 to be retrofitted in 2011, out of 23 planned. 7 will not be retrofitted.
A346 : 10% chance ex-FRA (0% chance ex-MUC)
1 retrofitted so far: D-AIHT, out of 1 planned for 2010/11. 1 more planned during summer 2011.
A343 : 10% chance ex-FRA (0% chance ex-MUC)
1 retrofitted so far: D-AIFD, out of 1 planned for 2010/11.
Click on the registration to check which routes these birds have flown recently (although as you will see the information may not be 100% accurate).
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jul 30, 2011 at 11:15 am Reason: waved a magic wand
Jul 30, 2011, 10:47 am
#765
Join Date: May 2011
Location: CGN
Programs: M&M , HHONORS Diamond
Posts: 156
Thank you for the Update.
Correct me if I am wrong. When looking at the routes flown with the new F, it seems that routes which start earliest mid-day in Fra are prefered. ( DEN, ORD, BOS) or of course the asian cities.
Furthermore LH 456 to LAX which starts at 10 am was not considered during the whole last month. LH 450 which starts at 2 was considerd a couple of times.
Correct me if I am wrong. When looking at the routes flown with the new F, it seems that routes which start earliest mid-day in Fra are prefered. ( DEN, ORD, BOS) or of course the asian cities.
Furthermore LH 456 to LAX which starts at 10 am was not considered during the whole last month. LH 450 which starts at 2 was considerd a couple of times.