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-   -   Rideshare at LAX (Uber/Lyft) (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/los-angeles/1989926-rideshare-lax-uber-lyft.html)

captiveguru Jun 1, 2015 7:31 am
According to this the "Parking Spot shuttle to In-N-Out" strategy no long works...

http://flyanddine.boardingarea.com/g...icially-kaput/

TWA884 Jul 16, 2015 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 24374518)
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Originally Posted by captiveguru (Post 24373825)
Thanks. My trip is a few weeks off. I am hoping the authorities work it out so that Uber can pickup at LAX before then, but just in case...

It is irritating to have to hop a shuttle, but I am willing to to it as I love Uber and I hate taxis...
It's unlikely to be resolved within a few weeks. Months? maybe, but I bet it'll take longer.

It looks as if it may happen in August.
LAX becomes largest U.S. airport to allow Uber, Lyft pickups

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Despite protests by taxi drivers, Los Angeles airport officials agreed Thursday to permit ride-hailing companies such as Uber and Lyft to begin picking up passengers at LAX, the largest airport in the nation to fully welcome the fast-growing, mobile app-based services.

The expanded operations could begin as early as late August, subject to final approvals by airport officials and the city attorney.

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CalItalian Jul 16, 2015 9:50 pm
"Councilman Paul Koretz also warned the commissioners that Uber and Lyft undermine safety regulations and clean air requirements that apply to taxis. Koretz is likely to try to appeal the decision to the full City Council, which could delay the launch of rideshare service."
http://www.laweekly.com/news/lax-pus...de-ban-5811391

darthbimmer Jul 21, 2015 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by CalItalian (Post 25129607)
"Councilman Paul Koretz also warned the commissioners that Uber and Lyft undermine safety regulations and clean air requirements that apply to taxis. Koretz is likely to try to appeal the decision to the full City Council, which could delay the launch of rideshare service."
http://www.laweekly.com/news/lax-pus...de-ban-5811391
Am I the only person who laughs every time the taxi industry complains about how Uber is less "safe"? Their definition of "safety" is background checks for drivers. Well, I've never been robbed or attacked by either a taxi driver or Uber driver in the US, and I don't know anyone who has. Feeling safe from crime is not the issue.

The real safety issue to me is safety from motor vehicle injury. More than half the times I've hire a taxi I have feared for my health or the health of people in other cars on the road, as taxi drivers frequently violate numerous traffic laws-- not just by speeding a little, but by driving 20+ mph over the limit, weaving lanes, making illegal turns, ignoring the right-of-way of pedestrians in crosswalks, and on a few occasions driving the wrong way down a one-way street. Uber drivers are far safer drivers than this.

TWA884 Jul 21, 2015 12:12 pm
Moderator's Note:
Please let's try to stay on topic, which is "Uber from LAX".

For general discussions of Uber's safety, etc., please go to the Ride Services, including Uber and Lyft forum.

Thank you,

TWA884
Moderator

TWA884 Aug 1, 2015 10:06 am
Six council members question plan to let Uber, Lyft pick up at LAX

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In a motion introduced Wednesday, Councilman Paul Krekorian asked his colleagues to override the airport commission's decision. If the motion passes next week -- at least 10 of the 15 council members would have to vote in favor of it -- the council would have the power to veto the permit policy and send it back to airport officials for revision.

Among other topics, the council could discuss requirements for more wheelchair-accessible Uber vehicles, a quota for hybrid vehicles, or driver criminal background checks that would be connected to the FBI's fingerprint database.

The other council members who signed the motion are Bob Blumenfield, Paul Koretz, Mitch O'Farrell, Nury Martinez and Gil Cedillo.

Krekorian and Koretz have been vocal about their concerns with the airport's policy. In May, they sent a letter to the Board of Airport Commissioners requesting that drivers for app-based transportation companies be required to have insurance policies that are "the equivalent to what taxi companies must carry" and be in "strict compliance" with the Americans with Disabilities Act.

"We still have not gotten a response," Krekorian said. "This is really just a vehicle for the council to have a dialogue about some of those issues."

Should the motion pass next week, it isn't a guarantee that the council will override the airport's decision, Blumenfield said.

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bzcat Aug 3, 2015 12:42 pm
One of the issue with Uber and Lyft is that the drivers can see where you are going before they accept your request so they can cheery pick the passengers. I use Uber frequently so I'm not a hater... but I certainly understand the concern that taxi drivers have about this uneven competitive landscape - i.e. taxi drivers cannot choose their fare... they must drive you to your destination after you get in the cab.

nnn Aug 4, 2015 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by bzcat (Post 25215163)
One of the issue with Uber and Lyft is that the drivers can see where you are going before they accept your request so they can cheery pick the passengers. I use Uber frequently so I'm not a hater... but I certainly understand the concern that taxi drivers have about this uneven competitive landscape - i.e. taxi drivers cannot choose their fare... they must drive you to your destination after you get in the cab.
Where do you get this from? Not true.

CalItalian Aug 4, 2015 7:29 pm
L.A. Times comes out with a story today that is obviously trying to influence the city council to vote for more regulations for Uber & Lyft at LAX http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...804-story.html

TWA884 Aug 4, 2015 7:52 pm
In the Los Angeles Times:
4 Uber drivers cited at LAX have serious criminal records

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At least four men ticketed by Los Angeles International Airport police while driving for Uber’s low-cost car service have criminal convictions that would bar them from operating a taxi in Los Angeles, records show.

The drivers have been convicted of child exploitation, identity theft, manslaughter and driving under the influence, according to court records. Each offense would make them ineligible for a Los Angeles taxi permit.

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One Uber driver ticketed at LAX was convicted of 14 counts of felony identity theft in 2012. Under the terms of his five-year probation, he cannot have access to any “personal identifying information,” including credit cards and debit cards, according to court records. All Uber passengers are required to pay with a credit or debit card, but payments are handled through the app.

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Another driver was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in 1998 and sentenced to 25 years in prison. Parole records show he was released last year. That conviction would not necessarily bar him from driving for Uber, but it would make it difficult, if not impossible, to get a taxi permit.

The city of Los Angeles automatically rejects permit applications from drivers who have been convicted of a sexual or violent felony, reckless driving or a hit-and-run crash that left someone seriously injured or killed.

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Need Aug 5, 2015 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by bzcat (Post 25215163)
One of the issue with Uber and Lyft is that the drivers can see where you are going before they accept your request so they can cheery pick the passengers. I use Uber frequently so I'm not a hater... but I certainly understand the concern that taxi drivers have about this uneven competitive landscape - i.e. taxi drivers cannot choose their fare... they must drive you to your destination after you get in the cab.
I actually kind of like that about Uber. I rather have someone who chooses to take me to my destination than to force someone to drive somewhere they don't want to be. So I am confused. Can you get pick up by UberX at LAX or not? Is it still in the process and not allowed yet? I had been doing one way rental to LAX because long term parking is actually more expansive.

I tried Uber for the first time this past weekend and I have to say that I will never go back to Taxi. I went on 3 trips and the cars are much nicer, the drivers are nicer, the drives are safer and slower, no detour to take the long way, and the wait is less than 5 minutes each time. On one ride, I even told the guy that Uber gave me $20, so you could drive around the blocks to get the full amount. He said it is still my time and don't want to waste my time so he just took me straight there... how nice is that?

CalItalian Aug 5, 2015 2:40 pm
L.A. City Council hits the brakes on plan to allow Uber at LAX

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...805-story.html

TWA884 Aug 5, 2015 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by CalItalian (Post 25226476)
L.A. City Council hits the brakes on plan to allow Uber at LAX

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...805-story.html
From the above linked article:
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Originally Posted by Los Angeles Times
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Councilman Paul Koretz, who has been a vocal critic of transportation network companies, said Uber and Lyft will eventually end up operating legally at LAX.

"The real question is: Are we going to do any kind of regulation?" Koretz said. "And are we going to review this set of contracts, or are we just going to take a pass?”

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Elected officials now have 20 days to discuss the regulations in a council committee. Then they will have the option to approve the permit process or send it back to airport officials for further changes.

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TWA884 Aug 19, 2015 1:28 pm
Plan for Uber, Lyft service at LAX clears key City Hall hurdle

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The odds that Uber and Lyft will soon be fully operational at Los Angeles International Airport appear to be increasing, despite some political hesitation at City Hall and calls for tighter screening of the ride-hailing services’ drivers.

A City Council committee heard hours of testimony Tuesday from warring sides in the latest local battle over the economic disruption being caused by rapidly growing start-ups in the so-called sharing economy.

In the end, lawmakers voted 3-2 to support a policy that would allow Uber and Lyft to seek permits to pick up airport passengers, a service they currently are banned from providing.

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The council will consider a series of recommendations adopted by the committee. Those include creating a simple complaint system that would be available to passengers of the ride-hailing services who take trips to or from LAX. Lawmakers also suggested the full council ask state regulators to mandate fingerprint-based background checks on Uber and Lyft drivers.

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TWA884 Aug 25, 2015 2:55 pm
Los Angeles lawmakers approve plan that would allow Uber and Lyft pickups at LAX

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After weeks of debate over the potential risks of app-based ride companies, the L.A. City Council approved a policy that would allow Uber and Lyft to apply for permits to pick up passengers at Los Angeles International Aiport, a service they’re currently barred from providing.

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The City Council agreed Tuesday to ask the California Public Utilities Commission, the state agency that regulates Uber and Lyft, to add fingerprinting as a part of the required background check process for all for-hire drivers, including those operating limousines, shuttles and ride-hail cars.

And in a last-minute amendment, council members instructed the city attorney to explore the city’s legal authority to require fingerprint background checks for ride-hailing services if state regulators fail to act.

The last remaining hurdle will be finalizing the contracts between the companies and the city.

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Concerns intensified last week when the top prosecutors for Los Angeles and San Francisco said they had found 25 California Uber drivers with serious criminal records, including murder, assault and driving under the influence.

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Airport officials have said that Uber and Lyft operate less like taxi services and more like shuttle or limousine companies, whose drivers do not undergo background checks to work at LAX.


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