Quintessential FD HD
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Co. Durham, UK
Posts: 217
Quintessential FD HD
Tried to claim some missing miles for a flight on actual NW metal from PHX -MEM. After the usual faxing copies of boarding pass etc, time passing, 2 phone calls and an e-mail, got an e-mail 14 weeks after the flight informing me that they couldn't credit the miles as the flight did not qualify. The same evening the missing miles appeared on my account!
Anyone know if there is such a thing as a non-qualifying NW flight on NW metal?
Thanks
Exraf
Anyone know if there is such a thing as a non-qualifying NW flight on NW metal?
Thanks
Exraf
Last edited by Exraf; Jul 11, 2004 at 4:31 am Reason: removed typo.
#4


Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 7,566
The fact that these two events took place on the same day would suggest that (for once!) this could have been a simple case of someone pressing the wrong button and selecting the wrong email template - they probably meant to send the "your miles have been credited" one....
#5
Suspended
Join Date: May 2001
Location: DUS
Posts: 4,004
Originally Posted by apirchik
There are a few non-qualifying agents in the FD HD ...
^ Could not agree more, however I think it depends more on the subpar training, so I would blame KLM for outsourcing the FD Helpdesk so poorly and not be able to improve the quality since some years now...
Beside that all Northwest flights are eligible for FD mileage accruel !
#7
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lincoln UK
Posts: 363
It won't be the training, although outsourced agents are generally trained less thorough. As mentioned they probably use a case based routing system for calls, i.e. 'Does the client have a valid question?' if yes, then tell him whatever he wants is impossible, if no, then tell the client he's stupid.
The problems that arise with a CBR are: faulty, out of date cbr; opaque routing system; agent's unfamiliarity with the cbr entries; agent's laziness with updating cbr when the agents detects a mistake
A cbr also encourages boxed thinking, if the agent does not find the answer to a query in cbr, the agent panicks and just guesses an answer.
Another call centre problem: low level politics resulting in the nice rather than the competent agents being promoted to supervisor. If the back-up system is sh*t...
Furthermore: Agents + supervisors will probably have the proper system authorization/or at least the possibility to contact the BO, just not the will/motivation.
The problems that arise with a CBR are: faulty, out of date cbr; opaque routing system; agent's unfamiliarity with the cbr entries; agent's laziness with updating cbr when the agents detects a mistake
A cbr also encourages boxed thinking, if the agent does not find the answer to a query in cbr, the agent panicks and just guesses an answer.
Another call centre problem: low level politics resulting in the nice rather than the competent agents being promoted to supervisor. If the back-up system is sh*t...
Furthermore: Agents + supervisors will probably have the proper system authorization/or at least the possibility to contact the BO, just not the will/motivation.





