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johan rebel May 24, 2022 4:56 am


Originally Posted by jongesander (Post 34275551)
The lounges will be more busy because recently SQ Premium pax will have access to the Privium Lounge. I think only Business Class pax.

Yes, just confirmed by the Express Lounge agent. Will of course effect ClubLounge West only.

Johan

etiene May 24, 2022 4:59 am


Originally Posted by terrier (Post 34275456)
I think you're right that there's no way this gets better in the short term. Lots of ways to get to the UK without going through Schiphol, though. Eurostar, obviously, but also from Rotterdam/The Hague Airport you can get to London-City (BA) or Edinburgh (Transavia). Ryanair serves Stansted, Edinburgh, and Manchester from Eindhoven, and Stansted from Maastricht/Aachen. And then there are the ferries...

Indeed, I was just thinking yesterday that I should check out RTM, but EIN is also worth considering. With this just being a long weekend to catch up with friends though, the potential for airport chaos [or trekking to a different departure point] does have to be all that high to kill the idea. Likewise, relatively short notice Eurostar bookings are offputtingly pricey.

johannes89 May 24, 2022 5:04 am

Hi all,

I'm flying to DTW from NUE via AMS next Monday with Delta. Glad I found this thread.
Connection time in AMS is 02:20. Should I expect also long queues when transferrig from Schengen to Non Schengen or is the Chaos only limited to CheckIn / initial security ?

Thanks for your help,

Maestro Ramen May 24, 2022 5:14 am

[QUOTE=HadesNL;34275327]

Normally airline checkin counters open 3H before scheduled departure time

/QUOTE]

Depends really. AF/KL nowadays have checkins open throughout the day at most airports they do multiple flights from. (Emphasis on most; was surprised to find checkin closed at BUD)

I'm sure other big airlines at Schiphol would be the same.

jongesander May 24, 2022 5:14 am


Originally Posted by HadesNL (Post 34275572)
jongesander : Interesting news!
Is this a recent feature from your last trip to Lombok.....?
and will this be during the summer months?

Anything better then the G*D awful Aspire lounge!
(which is still mentioned on SQ lounge website)

My guess is that this will be indefinitely the case. Previously, SQ had a separate area in the Aspire Lounge but that no longer exist for a while.

And nope, our last trip to Lombok SQ still used Aspire (November) and we are heading to Lombok tomorrow. Flying QR J and we can unfortunately not use Privium (traveling with daughter), so we hope for the best at the Priority Lane.

johan rebel May 24, 2022 5:28 am


Originally Posted by HadesNL (Post 34275572)
the Privium lounges have become pay4use for non-members

Eeks! Eeks! Eeks!

That’s a slippery slope.

Let's hope the ridiculous prices will deter most prospective guests.

Johan

HadesNL May 24, 2022 5:31 am


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 34275573)
Yes, just confirmed by the Express Lounge agent. Will of course effect ClubLounge West only.

Johan

Thanks for the confirmation!
Maybe it will be happy holidays after all :)
Now i can finally experience something that is properly run at Schiphol

HadesNL May 24, 2022 5:41 am


Originally Posted by etiene (Post 34275578)
Indeed, I was just thinking yesterday that I should check out RTM, but EIN is also worth considering. With this just being a long weekend to catch up with friends though, the potential for airport chaos [or trekking to a different departure point] does have to be all that high to kill the idea. Likewise, relatively short notice Eurostar bookings are offputtingly pricey.

I vowed never to set foot again on Eurostar.

Last February standing at Amsterdam Centraal waiting for the 1st departure of the day to London St.Pancras,
No train,
No replacement train,
Had to board the Thalys to Bruxelles Midi to catch Eurostar train there,
Not allowed to board the Thalys because of max capacity,
Had to use IC Direct,
Was told to sort it out at Bruxelles Midi and hope if other Paris - London Eurostar service had space
Or even wait 6 hours for the next Amsterdam - London Eurostar service
Eurostar customer service unreachable on all media

I took the IC Direct to Rotterdam,
and while onboard
booked a cheap BA RTM-LCY ticket,
went by taxi from station to airport,
and made it in time to my event.

Others have reported likewise, so caveat emptor:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.eurostar.com
(switch to Dutch and read more horror stories)

And yes the Eurostar price is to weep for !

HadesNL May 24, 2022 5:53 am

[QUOTE=Maestro Ramen;34275603]

Originally Posted by HadesNL (Post 34275327)

Normally airline checkin counters open 3H before scheduled departure time

/QUOTE]

Depends really. AF/KL nowadays have checkins open throughout the day at most airports they do multiple flights from. (Emphasis on most; was surprised to find checkin closed at BUD)

I'm sure other big airlines at Schiphol would be the same.

Yes, indeed this mostly applies to my BA / LH flights from Amsterdam.
But when with SQ or LY it is unfortunately 3H before departure..

Xandrios May 24, 2022 6:04 am


Originally Posted by jongesander (Post 34275605)
And nope, our last trip to Lombok SQ still used Aspire (November) and we are heading to Lombok tomorrow. Flying QR J and we can unfortunately not use Privium (traveling with daughter), so we hope for the best at the Priority Lane.

I'm pretty sure that you can take children with you through the privium lane. Not sure until what age though. The Tweakers thread on this topic has reports of people regularly taking kids along.

Maestro Ramen May 24, 2022 6:15 am


Originally Posted by HadesNL (Post 34275650)
Others have reported likewise, so caveat emptor:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.eurostar.com
(switch to Dutch and read more horror stories)

Wow, that's 0.1 point lower than KLM :p

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...dbe80a7005.png

johan rebel May 24, 2022 6:33 am


Originally Posted by Xandrios (Post 34275684)
I'm pretty sure that you can take children with you through the privium lane

Not the immigrations/passport lane.

Johan

irishguy28 May 24, 2022 6:44 am

Possible strike actions from 1 June
 
https://luchtvaartnieuws.nl/sites/de...?itok=QYhczO3f


Originally Posted by luchtvaartnieuws.nl
FNV UNION THREATENS LARGE-SCALE ACTIONS AT SCHIPHOL FROM 1 JUNE DUE TO UNRELENTING WORKLOAD

SCHIPHOL - The FNV is threatening action at Schiphol due to the sustained high workloads for security and baggage-handling staff. The union wants an agreement prior to 1 June regarding the easing of the workload.

Images circulated on social media on Sunday show a security officer lying on the ground having fainted. The staff cannot cope with the high pressure and the angry passengers worried about missing their flights.


highlanderfil May 24, 2022 8:00 am


Originally Posted by malmostoso (Post 34275166)
Hard to tell now, Sunday 21/08 will be the last day of school holidays for part of NL so the risk of having a very busy Schiphol is real. I'm not sure you'd be able to go airside with a BP for the following day.

The hotel says I can.

With a 12:50 departure I'd probably just wake up early and [b]get in line before 7, then kill time airside.
Yeah, that alone makes the hotel worth it...

highlanderfil May 24, 2022 8:01 am


Originally Posted by terrier (Post 34275447)
I agree with malmostoso - just go from the Sheraton to the terminal before 7 and you'll be fine. Plenty of ways to kill time airside in the non-Schengen area - walking around, people watching, planespotting, checking out the mini rijksmuseum, (window)shopping if that's your thing, etc.

Honestly, I'd rather spend the money and switch from the Sheraton to Yotelair for the privilege of getting an extra couple hours of shut-eye... As long as we don't end up bringing checked luggage (apparently the hotel won't allow it and we'd need to keep it in a locker airside, which would defeat the purpose). Given our trip is a week long, I think we can get away with it.


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