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sehgalanuj May 24, 2022 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 34275487)

Do you mind sharing where this Privium entrance is? The view to the traffic is throwing me off, and I have to admit that the lack of travel during the pandemic coupled with the changes at Schiphol have left me no longer as familiar with the airport as I used to be.

johan rebel May 24, 2022 5:46 pm

In Terminal 2. What you see out the window is the departures drop-off lane for buses and taxis, which has been closed to buses and taxis for years. Beyond that is the general drop-off lane. The Privium gate is just to the left of (revolving) door F if you are facing the windows, or on your right if you enter through that door.

Once through the gate you turn left and go up the stairs to the security checkpoints.

Johan

watewate May 24, 2022 8:09 pm

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3:55 am on May 25.

Just through the auto gate leading to security lines in departure 2. They are already restricting access to security gates with long lines.

Once upstairs, no one is manning the priority line. It’s anyways not accessible as multiple lines snake around before you are even reach the beginning of the privium/priority entry.

Prepare to arrive early.

[edit]

Someone showed up to man the priority gate. So smooth sailing. Of the 18 (?) security lines, most were operational so hopefully they can clear the lines relatively quickly.

BobTL May 24, 2022 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 34277413)
How would that reduce the number of passengers? Also, does KLM have a bunch of bigger aircraft lying around in some drawer somewhere? And the pilots to fly them?

Johan

It doesn’t reduce the number of passengers but it does reduce the workload for the staff. Preparing one bigger aircraft is less work than prepare 2 smaller ones. Also less departures makes more room on the runways so less risk of delays and more room in the flight schedules.
KL is performing now 13% under prepandamic levels so it’s not the case that all seats are occupied. And who says that all aircraft are used 100%. For example, I saw yesterday that a B738 coming in from Oporto was sitting like 6 hours before used for the next flight. On the other hand I saw that KL was operating all 4 daily BLL flights with E175/190/195 aircraft. So it could be an idea to bundle the KL1342 and KL 1344 and fly with one B738 or B739.
I do understand also crew is needed for this action but in one way or another, something has to happen immediately. That exercise has to be investigated.
Or in the end flights will just have to be canceled and some will not be able to come to their destination.

BobTL May 24, 2022 10:47 pm


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 34277413)
How would that reduce the number of passengers? Also, does KLM have a bunch of bigger aircraft lying around in some drawer somewhere? And the pilots to fly them?

Johan

Also, it could be an idea to use AF aircraft and crew (AF is 22% down compared to 2019) in case there is shortage of bigger aircraft. Or move more pax to CDG if there is more capacity. For example JFK and LAX routes with A380 aircraft.
I know now you might think of 1.000 reasons why it isn’t possible but I’m not sure if someone has looked into it yet.

mlin32 May 25, 2022 1:05 am

AF really doesn't have a lot of spare aircraft ; they retired their A380s and their capacity is simply shifted from away from Asia to TATL routes (for example, 6x daily to JFK plus daily to ORY). Their staff are also quite loaded thesedays and ADP (aéroports de Paris) is also experiencing staff shortages, something like 4 000 open positions.

AnaTFN May 25, 2022 1:23 am

Around 8:45am today:
Big lines for security (general) but seemed to be moving fluidly, not standing still.
Priority security quite slow, about 20 minutes to process 10 people.
SP and Privium access to upstairs security (from behind KLM SP check in area) was operational.

thomas199023 May 25, 2022 3:14 am

Flying out to London City (on BA) tomorrow around 13:00.
Which Privium check-point would be best to use?

Arriving at Schiphol at 10AM should be fine? (have status at BA as well)

mfkne May 25, 2022 3:34 am

Fun times today:

AnaTFN May 25, 2022 3:55 am


Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 34278531)
Fun times today

This is horrible, I cannot imagine doing this with children or someone with mobility/health problems.

Xandrios May 25, 2022 5:50 am


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 34277554)
Once through the gate you turn left and go up the stairs to the security checkpoints.
Johan

But isn't that one single set of stairs without priority/privium separation? Or is there, upstairs a split in queues?


Originally Posted by watewate (Post 34277895)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7f751f12e.jpeg
3:55 am on May 25.

Just through the auto gate leading to security lines in departure 2. They are already restricting access to security gates with long lines.

Once upstairs, no one is manning the priority line. It’s anyways not accessible as multiple lines snake around before you are even reach the beginning of the privium/priority entry.

Prepare to arrive early.

[edit]

Someone showed up to man the priority gate. So smooth sailing. Of the 18 (?) security lines, most were operational so hopefully they can clear the lines relatively quickly.

Oh My God.. at before 4AM already. Okay, I think that means I'll be going airside at like ~1AM for my 6:30-7:00AM flights and find a place to rest somewhere there. That's probably better than sleeping two hours at home and then having to take a taxi to the airport at like 3AM. Both the KLM lounges have shower facilities right?

Netherlines May 25, 2022 6:04 am

There's a split upatairs for Privium,oppositie the SP Checkin area.Folllow the sign handlugagge only,,go upstairs and there's a dedicated Privium Lane.No staff needed over there as the Privium lane is fully automatic and accepts Privium cards only.
There's absolutely no need to come early for 7.00 AM departures,there are no queues at SP at that time.
Once more and it shows today again,the chaos starts after 10.00AM

ryandc99 May 25, 2022 6:35 am

Hi folksLooking for some advice. I have a 10:40 departure for USA tomorrow, no bags to check and Delta sky priority. Any advice on what time I should arrive?

jongesander May 25, 2022 6:35 am

Arrived at 12.15 today at the checkin counter for a 4.15 PM departure. I think 3/4 of the pax were already waiting. Check in opens at 12.45 and we finished check in at 1.15 PM.

The good thing: QR escorted all business class passengers to the beginning of the Priority line (in groups) and this safe us a lot of time. We cleared security around 1.30 (but had to wait a little longer for a secondary).

Denied in the Privium Lounge because of our young daughter, wich is in line with the rules. So waiting in the Aspire Lounge now.

All in all, it could be far more worse.
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Netherlines May 25, 2022 6:40 am


Originally Posted by ryandc99 (Post 34278780)
Hi folksLooking for some advice. I have a 10:40 departure for USA tomorrow, no bags to check and Delta sky priority. Any advice on what time I should arrive?

08.30 should be okay,have a safe trip!


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