Mess in AMS today - April 2022 onwards
Oct 14, 2022, 9:42 am
#2836
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,063
Today afternoon, around 14:30. After spending some time landside, went to back door with Privium card. Almost no lines anywhere, priority side or not. I reckon 45 minutes before departure was doable HBO even without any priority, Schengen side.
Oct 14, 2022, 11:08 am
#2838
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: BER
Programs: LH FTL
Posts: 278
Just to add another data point: I arrived on LX in J yesterday at 2pm and had to catch a KL flight to BER in Y on a seperate ticket. Luggage was on the belt within 10 minutes after I reached the baggage claim hall from the B gates with no difference of priority or not. Upstairs at KL check-in 4 agents argueing who can check in me, because they had nothing to do. Another level up, I was through security (regular iine) in 5 minutes. I would have even reached the 3.30pm flight to Berlin, but was not brave enough to book it a few weeks ago. Despite bad weather yesterday, everything was very smooth and hassle free. Same experience 2 weeks ago, when departing on LH in J on a Tuesday late afternoon, no signs of long lines or so, I had to kill a lot of time in the lounge.
Oct 14, 2022, 2:22 pm
#2839
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
Cabin crew union VNC reports on a presentation by KLM COO Stienen discussing the airline's operational problems. A few highlights.
- KLM expects to have what they call a "stable and dependable" network in about five weeks' time.
- the airline will continue to cancel short and longhaul flights, both in the short and long term.
- seat blocking to ensure contingency capacity will continue.
- flight departure times will be adjusted to avoid peaks that exceed ground handling capacity. Flights will be rescheduled to depart either earlier or later.
- KLM does not expect the current problems to affect growth in the long term (I figure they can leave stifling growth to the Dutch government).
Johan
- KLM expects to have what they call a "stable and dependable" network in about five weeks' time.
- the airline will continue to cancel short and longhaul flights, both in the short and long term.
- seat blocking to ensure contingency capacity will continue.
- flight departure times will be adjusted to avoid peaks that exceed ground handling capacity. Flights will be rescheduled to depart either earlier or later.
- KLM does not expect the current problems to affect growth in the long term (I figure they can leave stifling growth to the Dutch government).
Johan
Oct 14, 2022, 2:38 pm
#2840
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Behind the curtain
Programs: Flying Blue, Accor
Posts: 403
Just to add another data point: I arrived on LX in J yesterday at 2pm and had to catch a KL flight to BER in Y on a seperate ticket. Luggage was on the belt within 10 minutes after I reached the baggage claim hall from the B gates with no difference of priority or not. Upstairs at KL check-in 4 agents argueing who can check in me, because they had nothing to do. Another level up, I was through security (regular iine) in 5 minutes. I would have even reached the 3.30pm flight to Berlin, but was not brave enough to book it a few weeks ago. Despite bad weather yesterday, everything was very smooth and hassle free. Same experience 2 weeks ago, when departing on LH in J on a Tuesday late afternoon, no signs of long lines or so, I had to kill a lot of time in the lounge.
You should have departed from BER instead of arriving, then you would have had your lounge time suitably cut short by excessive security queues. About 35 mins in the priority lane late afternoon today.
In other news, an English captain on my flight home this evening explained the 30 min delay was due to disruption at Heathrow earlier where they had to remove a passenger that was - and this is a verbatim quote - "plastered". Can't blame KLM for this one...
Oct 14, 2022, 2:38 pm
#2841
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: EDI
Programs: Flying Blue PFL; IHG Rewards Club Diamond; HHonors Silver
Posts: 423
it has been chaos in Amsterdam for a long time. I don't want to consciously prolong that chaos by deliberately putting prohibited items in my hand luggage.
for a creative hobby use in tweezers with a point, or a lancing device. will security let this through? Or do I have to unpack my things and then hand them in? in that case I do not hobby on the road because then I can also vacation 3 weeks not my hobby.
see foto for the items
for a creative hobby use in tweezers with a point, or a lancing device. will security let this through? Or do I have to unpack my things and then hand them in? in that case I do not hobby on the road because then I can also vacation 3 weeks not my hobby.
see foto for the items
Oct 15, 2022, 12:00 pm
#2844
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
Luchtvaartnieuws reports extremely long queues at arrivals this morning, apparently because lots of KMar officers have come down with Covid. All of a sudden and just like that.
Same story at EIN, but at that airport security staff were the ones who called in sick, which led to long lines and pax missing their flights.
Johan
Same story at EIN, but at that airport security staff were the ones who called in sick, which led to long lines and pax missing their flights.
Johan
Last edited by johan rebel; Oct 15, 2022 at 4:41 pm Reason: typos
Oct 15, 2022, 4:30 pm
#2845
Join Date: Sep 2022
Programs: DL, AY+, UA, Bonvoy. My elite status depends on how often my stingy boss sends me on trips.
Posts: 28
Luchtvaartnieuws reports extremely long queues at arrivals s this morning, apparently because lots of KMar officers have come down with Covid. All of a sudden and just like that.
Oct 15, 2022, 11:46 pm
#2846
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 32
Luchtvaartnieuws reports extremely long queues at arrivals this morning, apparently because lots of KMar officers have come down with Covid. All of a sudden and just like that.
Same story at EIN, but at that airport security staff were the ones who called in sick, which led to long lines and pax missing their flights.
Johan
Same story at EIN, but at that airport security staff were the ones who called in sick, which led to long lines and pax missing their flights.
Johan
Oct 16, 2022, 3:22 am
#2847
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,340
Anybody went from landslide to non Schengen this morning? Yesterday there was a report about a portion of Omar being out with covid causing long lines, anybody know what the situation is today?
Flying tomorrow just after noon and trying to guesstimate what a good time would be to arrive.
Flying tomorrow just after noon and trying to guesstimate what a good time would be to arrive.
Oct 16, 2022, 3:34 am
#2848
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Programs: KL Gold, SQ KF Gold, CX Green
Posts: 9,414
Anybody went from landslide to non Schengen this morning? Yesterday there was a report about a portion of Omar being out with covid causing long lines, anybody know what the situation is today?
Flying tomorrow just after noon and trying to guesstimate what a good time would be to arrive.
Flying tomorrow just after noon and trying to guesstimate what a good time would be to arrive.
There is a Facebook group “rijen en drukte schiphol” and someone wrote half an hour ago “we are flying to New York in a few hours and we completed all formalities in 30 minutes”.
English-speaking Facebook users can join the group “Expats enjoying Dutch Airport Queues” for life reports.
Last edited by Sjoerd; Oct 16, 2022 at 3:50 am
Oct 16, 2022, 5:53 am
#2850
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Toronto
Programs: Aeroplan;KLM;UA
Posts: 112
Yes, Omar reported sick with Covid, however Mustafa is working normally. 😉
There is a Facebook group “rijen en drukte schiphol” and someone wrote half an hour ago “we are flying to New York in a few hours and we completed all formalities in 30 minutes”.
English-speaking Facebook users can join the group “Expats enjoying Dutch Airport Queues” for life reports.
There is a Facebook group “rijen en drukte schiphol” and someone wrote half an hour ago “we are flying to New York in a few hours and we completed all formalities in 30 minutes”.
English-speaking Facebook users can join the group “Expats enjoying Dutch Airport Queues” for life reports.