KLM's S20 timetable - schedule related questions

Old Mar 27, 20, 4:53 am
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Cargo flights are presumably still permitted.
Indeed, but the cargo-only destinations are designated as such in the list, and SIN wasn't amongst them.
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Old Mar 27, 20, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28 View Post
Indeed, but the cargo-only destinations are designated as such in the list, and SIN wasn't amongst them.
Nevertheless, KL835 is showing as scheduled for this evening. Whether it will fly remains to be seen, but an ATC record has been created and a tail number (PH-BVC) has been assigned. And yesterday's KL835 (PH-BVN) arrived at SIN today at 4.52 p.m. local time.

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Old Mar 27, 20, 6:27 am
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There's also schedule changes, including some weird ones - KL791 (AMS-GRU) is going from a day flight (leaving AMS at 10) to a red-eye, leaving just before 10 PM, arriving in Brazil at 5 in the morning.
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Old Mar 27, 20, 6:39 am
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There's also schedule changes, including some weird ones - KL791 (AMS-GRU) is going from a day flight (leaving AMS at 10) to a red-eye, leaving just before 10 PM, arriving in Brazil at 5 in the morning.
KL is adjusting schedules to ensure that as many crews as possible can stay with the aircraft and return to AMS without having to spend a night at their destination.

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Old Mar 27, 20, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by johan rebel View Post
KL is adjusting schedules to ensure that as many crews as possible can stay with the aircraft and return to AMS without having to spend a night at their destination.

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And also to maintain as much connectivity with the scaled down European network. That would point to moving the remaining longhauls towards evening departure, after local flights do midday-ish rotations.

Don't know when the flights return tho.
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Old Mar 27, 20, 12:18 pm
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Blocking seats would mean leaving people stranded.
The FA unions have now presented KL with a list of demands. These include:

- Flights to JFK to cease immediately

- Separation of pax by keeping middle seats free

- No contact between crew and pax whatsover. At take-off and landing crew take their assigned seats. During the flight they are to remain in the galley at all times, dire emergencies excepted. Gloves and masks to be worn for the entire flight.

- No in-flight service of any kind. Meal boxes to be placed on seats before boarding commences.

- Health screening of all pax before boarding.

I guess it's a good thing these unions are not representing doctors, nurses or other health care professionals. Or bus drivers, grocery store employees or anybody else who in a professional capacity may actually come into contact with a real human being.

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Old Mar 27, 20, 2:35 pm
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KL835 took off for SIN a few minutes ago. It departed from gate E20, so presumably with pax.

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Hum...I have a LAX-AMS-OSL flight on 4 May...
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Watching. I'm scheduled for AMS-CPT on 6 May....
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Old Mar 31, 20, 12:11 pm
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I have now with changes

17 April Ams-Mex
18 April Dus-Ams
19 April Mex- Cun

will Mex - Cun be canceled because I have not flown Dus-Ams.... 😛
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Old Apr 1, 20, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by DCAhome View Post
Watching. I'm scheduled for AMS-CPT on 6 May....
https://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/pre...date/index.htm
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Thanks for highlighting that notice. Things are not looking good.
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Old Apr 1, 20, 11:01 am
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Thanks for highlighting that notice. Things are not looking good.
You really should not be planning any discretionary travel for the foreseeable future anyway.
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Old Apr 1, 20, 11:16 am
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KL has now announced extra corona measure on JFK flights. Henceforth, all aisle seats will be blocked. The intention is to increase the separation between seated pax and crew members walking down the aisle. That the effect may well be to force pax into middle seats and thus decrease the separation between the pax themselves to below the recommended minimum is apparently of no concern. Other airlines have announced that all middle seats will be blocked, so priorities apparently differ.

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Old Apr 1, 20, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by johan rebel View Post
KL has now announced extra corona measure on JFK flights. Henceforth, all aisle seats will be blocked. The intention is to increase the separation between seated pax and crew members walking down the aisle. That the effect may well be to force pax into middle seats and thus decrease the separation between the pax themselves to below the recommended minimum is apparently of no concern. Other airlines have announced that all middle seats will be blocked, so priorities apparently differ.

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Since AMS-JFK is now served by the 78X that would indeed mean that Y pax can only occupy a middle seat.
And that none of the WBC seats can be occupied...
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