KL606/605 SFO-AMS v.v. cancelled (29 March 2017)

Old May 15, 2017, 11:07 am
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 KL605/16MAY AMS-SFO (San Francisco) Booked: 34C/276M
 KL606/16MAY SFO-AMS Booked: X
o Cancellation. Flight segments are cancelled due to exceeding technical
maintenance.
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Old May 15, 2017, 11:50 am
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Yesterday Ams-jfk was also cancelled...
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Thino
Yesterday Ams-jfk was also cancelled...
Aircraft went tech.

Code:
 KL643/14MAY AMS-JFK (New York) Booked: X
 KL644/14MAY JFK-AMS Booked: X
o Cancellation. Flight cancelled 2 hours before the KL643 departure time for
technical reasons.
o Customers are being rebooked by the AMS Ticket Office (KL643) and DL ROC
(KL644).
o KL641/642 - 15MAY will operate with a B777-300 instead of B777-200. KL641
fully saleable (34C/374M) and KL642 max saleable 34C/282M for crew reasons.
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Old May 15, 2017, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph
Flight segments are cancelled due to exceeding technical maintenance.
I'm still trying to figure out what the heck that's supposed to mean.

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Old May 16, 2017, 10:32 am
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It's long form for "gone tech".

The time required for successful technical maintenance/repair exceeds the time available for an on-time - or even a delayed - departure.

Not all repairs can be carried out at the gate and in a timely manner.
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Old May 16, 2017, 1:54 pm
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They may want to consider using English in the future.

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Old May 17, 2017, 2:55 am
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KL605/6 AMS-SFO-AMS seems to be cancelled again on 18MAY, it has been affected on 16MAY already.

I hope the reliability will improve when the flight switches from 777 to 744 later this year. I booked two seats in Y and applied Delta upgrade certificates, so in case of irrops I'll probably have to sit in the back 600EUR would be nice, but I much prefer a journey without major interruptions.
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Old May 17, 2017, 3:04 am
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Something is amiss again. A lot of aircraft substitutions or cancellations:

Code:
 KL589/16MAY AMS-ACC (Accra) Booked: X
 KL590/16MAY ACC-AMS Booked: X
o Equipment change. Flight segments are operating with a B787 instead of a B772 for technical reasons.
o Flight KL589 is fully saleable, flight KL590 is max saleable with 30C/224M for cabin crew reasons

 KL651/16MAY AMS-IAD (Washington) Booked: X
 KL652/16MAY IAD-AMS Booked: X
o Delay. Flight departed with a delay of 2 hours and 20 minutes due to an aircraft
change for technical reasons.
o KL652 is delayed by 1 hour and 30 minutes as a consequence.

 KL867/16MAY AMS-KIX (Osaka) Booked: X
 KL868/17MAY KIX-AMS Booked: X
o Delay. Flight departed with a delay of 1 hour and 25 minutes due to an aircraft
change for technical reasons.
o KL868 is delayed by 1 hour and 10 minutes as a consequence.

 KL621/17MAY AMS-ATL (Atlanta) Booked: X
 KL622/17MAY ATL-AMS Booked: X
o Cancellation. Flight segments are cancelled due to exceeding technical
maintenance

 KL835/17MAY AMS-SIN (Singapore) Booked: X
 KL835/17MAY SIN-DPS (Denpasar) Booked: X
 KL836/18MAY DPS-SIN Booked: X
 KL836/18MAY SIN-AMS Booked: X
o Equipment change. Flight segments will operate with a B772 (configuration
34C/282M) instead of a B77W due to exceeding technical maintenance.

 KL691/18MAY AMS-YYZ (Toronto) Booked: X
 KL692/18MAY YYZ-AMS Booked: X
o Equipment change. Flight segments are operated with a B77W instead of a B772 due to exceeding technical maintenance.
o New configuration 34C/374M
o No consequences for the customers.

 KL451/17MAY AMS-AUH (Abu Dhabi) Booked: X
 KL452/18MAY AUH-AMS Booked: X
o Equipment change. Flight will operate with A330-300 version instead of a -200
version due to technical issues within the fleet.
o Flight segments are max saleable 30C/200M (KL451) and 30C/224M (KL452) for
crew reasons.

 KL677/17MAY AMS-YYC (Calgary) Booked: X
 KL678/17MAY YYC-AMS Booked: X
o Equipment change. Flight will operate with B777-300 instead of an A330-300 due
to technical issues within the fleet.
o Flight segments are max saleable 34C/280M.
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Old May 17, 2017, 11:27 am
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Wow, this looks very bad.
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Old May 18, 2017, 2:44 am
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Today's and tomorrow's victims:

Code:
 KL445/18MAY AMS-KWI (Kuwait) Booked: X
 KL445/18MAY KWI-BAH (Bahrain) Booked: X
 KL446/19MAY BAH-KWI Booked: X
 KL446/19MAY KWI-AMS Booked: X
o Cancellation. Flight segments cancelled due to technical reasons (external
damage).

 KL539/18MAY AMS-KGL (Kigali) Booked: X
 KL539/18MAY KGL-EBB (Entebbe) Booked: X
 KL539/18MAY EBB-AMS Booked: X
o Equipment change. Flight segments are operated by an A333 instead of an
A332.
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Old May 18, 2017, 1:18 pm
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KLM really needs to fix this asap. They are known for their reliability and if they continue like this, it will damage the brand for a long time.
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Old May 18, 2017, 2:54 pm
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Agreed. Like I said, I'm shook that I'm at the point where I am considering other carriers because I'm getting more flights between AMS and SFO cancelled than flights that actually operate normally.
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Old May 19, 2017, 12:08 am
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As you're a veteran of the SFO cancellations, can you tell us the various outcomes that have happened when your flight is cancelled?

Have they always been able to accomodate you on same-day services? What has been the greatest, and shortest, delay in getting to your destination? Have you been routed via Paris, vai New York, or what other itineraries have they provided?

Thanks!!

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Old May 19, 2017, 5:59 pm
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So far, typically I get on the phone between 1-4 hours after the cancellation posts.

I'd say most of the time I end up on Delta. Sometimes, within the US, I route to an airport that has a KLM flight departing from it (SFO-SLC-AMS), sometimes it's a straight shot (AMS-JFK on a Delta flight). Typical delay is 8 hours to a full day. KLM is always unable to get me on another KLM direct flight in any reasonable timespan.

The last cancellation somehow got us on a flight to Paris from Amsterdam and then on to SFO -- same day! That was nice, but we still arrived 8 hours later than planned.

It's worth noting that if you wait for KLM to auto-rebook you, you end up on absolutely horrifyingly bad itineraries and often on a non-SkyTeam flight. I really have no idea why, but it seems to really like Lufthansa.
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Old May 20, 2017, 4:08 am
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Rerouting on lufthansa does allow for double milage earning which can be a nice perk
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