theboss7593

What does the airspace lounge have to do with JetBlue? It was it's own seperate entity.

Aer Lingus has a lounge in T5 now, considering they are partners with JetBlue maybe they can work something out, revamp it a little..

MSYtoJFKagain

That's the thing, if they're giving access to Mint pax and/or Mosaic pax it needs to be a decent size. If you're only giving it to Int'l Mint pax than that's going to piss off the other two groups and given the low frequency of flights initially it just doesn't seem like a smart investment.

This is a great idea. Especially at the beginning of the service. Definitely revamp the food though.

tphuang

With JetBlue expanding to t6 and t7 in the coming years, they should work hard to attract as many premium partners into the new north terminal as possible. Aside from greater connectivity, that will also bring the lounges that I am sure a lot of their passengers would like to access with credit card.

Dieuwer

"AA and BA forced to surrender some London to USA slots by The Competition & Markets Authority"

https://www.headforpoints.com/2020/0...ets-authority/

Seems like an opportunity for B6 to get into LHR.
Yes, at the moment there is COVID-19 Pandemic but a great leader looks ahead. Not behind.

cmd320

Not only that by B6 can sleigh AA, BA and pretty much anyone else flying JFK-LHR on cost so I would say the market will be ripe for new and better products, especially if they can be had cheaper.

Often1

With the failure of every other LCC on the NYC-LON route, B6 may well rethink whether the route is viable.

It's an expensive route to operate and those who have tried to do it on a shoestring just can't make it work.

cmd320

Every other LCC on the route has thrown a crap product at a premium market to/from a secondary airport. If an LCC can deliver an equal or greater product than a bloated legacy at an equal or lesser price, that would be very different story.

sethMCOflyer

Is the route expensive, or is there just loads of competition?

B6 might hit this with perfect timing along with a much better product than most of the competition.

MSYtoJFKagain

Competition more so than expense. It's the most profitable route in the world.

tphuang

B6 is getting lucky here. Entering TATL market at a time when competition is weakening and slots at LHR might become available. In today's call, they revealed that they are expecting 5 A321LRs in 2021 and 7 in 2022. Based on that, they are still going to enter BOS-LHR in probably late 2021 with a lot better finances than all their competitors. Couldn't have found a better time to enter the market. And if VS collapses and lose much of its slots to the pool, B6 will have even more to work with.

GW McLintock

I know we don't usually agree on everything tphuang but you hit the nail on the head. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for JB to really shake things up in the USA-LON market. Assuming we get back to some level of normalcy, it will be perfect timing for them with regard to fleet and route availability. Mint is a strong product and airlines like Delta and BA have clearly taken notice.

-J.

Out of my Element

Taking a lesser known page out of Santa's book, eh?

sethMCOflyer

That’s what I had heard but wasn’t sure.

If you let the B6 executives dream up their ideal scenario for entering the trans-Atlantic market, that dream would probably look a lot like reality right now. LHR slot availability, check. Weakened competition, check. Price conscious travelers, check.

DLSuites

Thanks in large part to B6 crying non stop like a small child, looks like they got the slots they are after. In my opinion, they should've been given nothing and earned them like everyone else. That said, what has taken JetBlue so long to begin with to start something that they should have started years and years ago? We are talking about London, a flight slightly longer than a transcon. They should've been in the LON market for years. In fact, by this point in time, they should have had their sights set on TPAC flying and they should've had the footprint in SEA that Delta does now. Very poorly run airline. New management is desperately needed.

All that said, the addition of JetBlue to the LON market will be good in the sense that I can probably get my Delta business class ticket for cheaper, but in no way would I ever fly B6 to LON. So, lets go B6, lets get with the program.

tphuang

We will see if they actually get all the slots they need at LHR. If not, LGW is going to be wide open with BA/VS leaving there and DY downsizing quite a bit. As for why they haven't started this years ago, the aircraft is just not ready. They have been waiting on LRs.

And frankly, all that waiting has presented itself as a great opportunity. They couldn't have picked a better time to enter the market.

not sure if you are closer to BOS/JFK, but there is a good chance DL will not be on BOS-LHR 2 years from now given the current crisis VS is facing.