May 21, 2020, 5:59 pm
Japan Transit/Connection/Layover Master Thread
Sep 1, 2021, 10:15 pm
#196
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I know CMH and GUM has a location that offers free PCR tests. Some other locations like LAS offer free tests but possibly only to residents..? But all these tests take hours at the latest. The only 30 minute test I know is antigen, but I thought that wasn’t eligible for Japan? Or maybe rapid PCR (LAX airport testing) but never heard of a free one.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/files/100177968.pdf
I am no chemist, but it seems chemiluminescence is okay, and immunochromatographic is out.
Sep 2, 2021, 12:09 am
#197
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Here is the form, with antigen listed.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/files/100177968.pdf
I am no chemist, but it seems chemiluminescence is okay, and immunochromatographic is out.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/files/100177968.pdf
I am no chemist, but it seems chemiluminescence is okay, and immunochromatographic is out.
Sep 2, 2021, 4:59 am
#198
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From what I could figure out, chemiluminescence is quantitative (CLEIA), and immunochromatographic (ICA) is qualitative. Problem is US doesn't seem to use that terminology.
Sep 2, 2021, 9:37 pm
#199
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Here is the form, with antigen listed.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/files/100177968.pdf
I am no chemist, but it seems chemiluminescence is okay, and immunochromatographic is out.
https://www.mofa.go.jp/files/100177968.pdf
I am no chemist, but it seems chemiluminescence is okay, and immunochromatographic is out.
I know the BinaxNow test is the most popular antigen test in the US right now, but appears to be “qualitative”. If anyone knows of a cheap “quantitative” test, please share!
“The BinaxNOWTM COVID-19 Ag Card is a lateral flow immunoassay intended for the qualitative detection of nucleocapsid protein antigen from SARS-CoV-2 in direct anterior nasal (nares) swabs from individuals suspected of COVID-19 by their healthcare provider within the first seven days of symptom onset.”
Sep 3, 2021, 4:30 am
#200
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This was the same form I used on Monday.
I know the BinaxNow test is the most popular antigen test in the US right now, but appears to be “qualitative”. If anyone knows of a cheap “quantitative” test, please share!
“The BinaxNOWTM COVID-19 Ag Card is a lateral flow immunoassay intended for the qualitative detection of nucleocapsid protein antigen from SARS-CoV-2 in direct anterior nasal (nares) swabs from individuals suspected of COVID-19 by their healthcare provider within the first seven days of symptom onset.”
I know the BinaxNow test is the most popular antigen test in the US right now, but appears to be “qualitative”. If anyone knows of a cheap “quantitative” test, please share!
“The BinaxNOWTM COVID-19 Ag Card is a lateral flow immunoassay intended for the qualitative detection of nucleocapsid protein antigen from SARS-CoV-2 in direct anterior nasal (nares) swabs from individuals suspected of COVID-19 by their healthcare provider within the first seven days of symptom onset.”
Qualitative = yes or no.
Quantitative = a number, but almost every lab provider warns you about the lack of research about this number, and you can't compare it to a different lab's number.
and most likely this will be a molecular test. There are two takehome molecular tests using LAMP, both claiming to be the first FDA EUA athome molecular tests (Cue and Lucir) but i believe they only report yes/no
Sep 3, 2021, 4:43 am
#201
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Is there a reason why you care about the difference?
Qualitative = yes or no.
Quantitative = a number, but almost every lab provider warns you about the lack of research about this number, and you can't compare it to a different lab's number.
and most likely this will be a molecular test. There are two takehome molecular tests using LAMP, both claiming to be the first FDA EUA athome molecular tests (Cue and Lucir) but i believe they only report yes/no
Qualitative = yes or no.
Quantitative = a number, but almost every lab provider warns you about the lack of research about this number, and you can't compare it to a different lab's number.
and most likely this will be a molecular test. There are two takehome molecular tests using LAMP, both claiming to be the first FDA EUA athome molecular tests (Cue and Lucir) but i believe they only report yes/no
Sep 3, 2021, 6:35 am
#202
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Speculating if a quantitative antigen test, was the free and rapid test mentioned earlier that would qualify for entry into Japan. Unless there’s a different test you’re aware of that satisfies entry into Japan that is free and within 30 minutes. I’ve been looking for one without much success.
Sep 16, 2021, 3:41 pm
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That's really a question for the OZ forum, and what their policies are and general experices. Some airlines do, some airlines don't. Narita and ANA has no rules blocking it from happening.
Sep 16, 2021, 8:43 pm
#205
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A somewhat similar question came up on a UA award on OZ, JFK-ICN, 16 hour layover, ICN-KIX. At first the Japan-based UA agent wasn't sure the bags would be checked through, but after talking to OZ they called me back and said no problem. I called OZ and they confirmed it. If I were you I would talk to another OZ agent and ANA as well.
Oct 2, 2021, 1:23 am
#207
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I googled your query. From the US Embassy in Japan website, "Travelers seeking to transit Japan en route to onward international destinations may continue to do so without quarantine as long as the transit occurs within the same airport and no overnight stay is required."
The above information is also confirmed on a number of other websites, including the UK govt, ANA, JAL and Philippine Airlines.
The above information is also confirmed on a number of other websites, including the UK govt, ANA, JAL and Philippine Airlines.
Oct 2, 2021, 4:09 pm
#208
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Do ANA and JAL have a baggage interlining agreement between international flights at Haneda? Back in 2019 I was able to take advantage of the agreement at Narita for a 95 minute connection to Taipei, but I’m unclear on whether that was unique to that airport.
Oct 2, 2021, 5:27 pm
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Do ANA and JAL have a baggage interlining agreement between international flights at Haneda? Back in 2019 I was able to take advantage of the agreement at Narita for a 95 minute connection to Taipei, but I’m unclear on whether that was unique to that airport.
Generally, both of them are quite good at checking luggage through to other carriers on separate tickets, JAL has it as stated policy to any Oneworld carrier. I don't believe either has a policy that includes non-alliance carriers, so to some extent it will be up to the check-in agent of the day. But generally I would say yes they do.
If we are talking a single ticket, that's no issue at all. Luggage will be passed between the two carriers.
Oct 2, 2021, 6:05 pm
#210
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Generally, both of them are quite good at checking luggage through to other carriers on separate tickets, JAL has it as stated policy to any Oneworld carrier. I don't believe either has a policy that includes non-alliance carriers, so to some extent it will be up to the check-in agent of the day.