Japan Transit/Connection/Layover Master Thread
#1621
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DUB-BOS
Programs: various
Posts: 3,692
Thanks to everyone for the input. Any tips to accelerate getting through immigration?
It seems Visit Japan Website is no longer 'required' but does it accelerate entry, perhaps through a dedicated line?
For customs, I read an article that suggested doing the electronic form AND paper form the select which to use based on the lines at customs. Is this still valid or was it covid era advice?
It seems Visit Japan Website is no longer 'required' but does it accelerate entry, perhaps through a dedicated line?
For customs, I read an article that suggested doing the electronic form AND paper form the select which to use based on the lines at customs. Is this still valid or was it covid era advice?
#1622
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
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Thanks to everyone for the input. Any tips to accelerate getting through immigration?
It seems Visit Japan Website is no longer 'required' but does it accelerate entry, perhaps through a dedicated line?
For customs, I read an article that suggested doing the electronic form AND paper form the select which to use based on the lines at customs. Is this still valid or was it covid era advice?
It seems Visit Japan Website is no longer 'required' but does it accelerate entry, perhaps through a dedicated line?
For customs, I read an article that suggested doing the electronic form AND paper form the select which to use based on the lines at customs. Is this still valid or was it covid era advice?
#1623
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New York
Posts: 183
Hi all,
I'm considering booking a ticket from Sapporo to Osaka via ANA departing early a.m. the goal is to head to yakushima island via Japan air from Itami airport, but the only flight available has just a one hour connection window. Since they're different airline I'm nervous about making the connection. Has anyone done similar or can advise if one hour is enough (no checked luggage).
I'm considering booking a ticket from Sapporo to Osaka via ANA departing early a.m. the goal is to head to yakushima island via Japan air from Itami airport, but the only flight available has just a one hour connection window. Since they're different airline I'm nervous about making the connection. Has anyone done similar or can advise if one hour is enough (no checked luggage).
#1624
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Beantown! (BOS)
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Posts: 3,438
Hi all,
I'm considering booking a ticket from Sapporo to Osaka via ANA departing early a.m. the goal is to head to yakushima island via Japan air from Itami airport, but the only flight available has just a one hour connection window. Since they're different airline I'm nervous about making the connection. Has anyone done similar or can advise if one hour is enough (no checked luggage).
I'm considering booking a ticket from Sapporo to Osaka via ANA departing early a.m. the goal is to head to yakushima island via Japan air from Itami airport, but the only flight available has just a one hour connection window. Since they're different airline I'm nervous about making the connection. Has anyone done similar or can advise if one hour is enough (no checked luggage).
ANA 4812 (operated by AirDo)
Sapporo (CTS) 8:30 a.m.
Fukuoka (FUK) 10:55 a.m.
JAL 3679 (operated by JAC)
Fukuoka (FUK) 12:50 noon
Yakushima (KUM) 2:00 p.m.
#1625
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: NYC
Programs: UA Silver, AA, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott
Posts: 4
Hi all, wanted to check with everyone if this is too short for a connection at HND.
On ANA I am doing TSA > HND > ITM, I just noticed on the email receipt of the booking that it only has a 90 min connection time...
It's also the last flight of the day to ITM and I also will have checked bags and from what I understand I will have to retrieve them and re-check them.
Is this even possible to make? It seems to meet ANA's minimum connection time but now thinking about it I think it might be too tight
It's also not clear from the the Haneda site if the transfer desk will be open to check the bags at drop off at terminal 3 at that time (If I could even make the cut off?)
On ANA I am doing TSA > HND > ITM, I just noticed on the email receipt of the booking that it only has a 90 min connection time...
It's also the last flight of the day to ITM and I also will have checked bags and from what I understand I will have to retrieve them and re-check them.
Is this even possible to make? It seems to meet ANA's minimum connection time but now thinking about it I think it might be too tight
It's also not clear from the the Haneda site if the transfer desk will be open to check the bags at drop off at terminal 3 at that time (If I could even make the cut off?)
#1626
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New York
Posts: 183
Minimum connection time at ITM (Osaka Itami airport) from ANA to JAL is 30 min. If your flight from Sapporo is on time, then there should be no problem. If you want little more cushion on connection, then there is another option (I do not know your travel date so basing on current schedule):
ANA 4812 (operated by AirDo)
Sapporo (CTS) 8:30 a.m.
Fukuoka (FUK) 10:55 a.m.
JAL 3679 (operated by JAC)
Fukuoka (FUK) 12:50 noon
Yakushima (KUM) 2:00 p.m.
ANA 4812 (operated by AirDo)
Sapporo (CTS) 8:30 a.m.
Fukuoka (FUK) 10:55 a.m.
JAL 3679 (operated by JAC)
Fukuoka (FUK) 12:50 noon
Yakushima (KUM) 2:00 p.m.
#1627
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 19
Hi,
I am going to bring my mom, in her 70s to visit Japan. It will be our first time.
If I fly from JFK to Osaka, i have to change flight in Tokyo, there is no direct flight. The layover is under 2 hours. Is that enough time when one has to go through immigration? and do i have to pick up my luggage to go through immigration or I can pick up my luggage at ITM airport.
Since she is old and after such a long flight I was thinking of visiting Tokyo first take the bullet train to Kyoto and then fly out of kyoto/ITM back to Jfk.
Since I want to use my mileages, the available award return flight to NYC is flying out of Tokyo, so now I am thinking of going to Kyoto first. Another option is doing a sandwich trip, stay in Tokyo first go to Kyoto and then go back to Tokyo.
Thanks in advance for the info.
I am going to bring my mom, in her 70s to visit Japan. It will be our first time.
If I fly from JFK to Osaka, i have to change flight in Tokyo, there is no direct flight. The layover is under 2 hours. Is that enough time when one has to go through immigration? and do i have to pick up my luggage to go through immigration or I can pick up my luggage at ITM airport.
Since she is old and after such a long flight I was thinking of visiting Tokyo first take the bullet train to Kyoto and then fly out of kyoto/ITM back to Jfk.
Since I want to use my mileages, the available award return flight to NYC is flying out of Tokyo, so now I am thinking of going to Kyoto first. Another option is doing a sandwich trip, stay in Tokyo first go to Kyoto and then go back to Tokyo.
Thanks in advance for the info.
#1628
Join Date: May 2018
Programs: JMB
Posts: 132
We plan a trip to Kyoto/Osaka for a few days. The old (pre-war) option FRA-NRT-ITM is no longer valid as the connection time seems to be to short.
Moving to HND sounds like a bad idea. So I had thought about FRA-NRT-NGO. It is a 1,5h connection at Narita Airport. Is this really enough time as you have to immigration, get the checked baggage, go to the customs and pass security and everything else again?
Moving to HND sounds like a bad idea. So I had thought about FRA-NRT-NGO. It is a 1,5h connection at Narita Airport. Is this really enough time as you have to immigration, get the checked baggage, go to the customs and pass security and everything else again?
#1629
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Location: Tokyo
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Hi,
I am going to bring my mom, in her 70s to visit Japan. It will be our first time.
If I fly from JFK to Osaka, i have to change flight in Tokyo, there is no direct flight. The layover is under 2 hours. Is that enough time when one has to go through immigration? and do i have to pick up my luggage to go through immigration or I can pick up my luggage at ITM airport.
Since she is old and after such a long flight I was thinking of visiting Tokyo first take the bullet train to Kyoto and then fly out of kyoto/ITM back to Jfk.
Since I want to use my mileages, the available award return flight to NYC is flying out of Tokyo, so now I am thinking of going to Kyoto first. Another option is doing a sandwich trip, stay in Tokyo first go to Kyoto and then go back to Tokyo.
Thanks in advance for the info.
I am going to bring my mom, in her 70s to visit Japan. It will be our first time.
If I fly from JFK to Osaka, i have to change flight in Tokyo, there is no direct flight. The layover is under 2 hours. Is that enough time when one has to go through immigration? and do i have to pick up my luggage to go through immigration or I can pick up my luggage at ITM airport.
Since she is old and after such a long flight I was thinking of visiting Tokyo first take the bullet train to Kyoto and then fly out of kyoto/ITM back to Jfk.
Since I want to use my mileages, the available award return flight to NYC is flying out of Tokyo, so now I am thinking of going to Kyoto first. Another option is doing a sandwich trip, stay in Tokyo first go to Kyoto and then go back to Tokyo.
Thanks in advance for the info.
Last edited by CPH-Flyer; Jul 21, 2023 at 3:58 pm
#1630
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We plan a trip to Kyoto/Osaka for a few days. The old (pre-war) option FRA-NRT-ITM is no longer valid as the connection time seems to be to short.
Moving to HND sounds like a bad idea. So I had thought about FRA-NRT-NGO. It is a 1,5h connection at Narita Airport. Is this really enough time as you have to immigration, get the checked baggage, go to the customs and pass security and everything else again?
Moving to HND sounds like a bad idea. So I had thought about FRA-NRT-NGO. It is a 1,5h connection at Narita Airport. Is this really enough time as you have to immigration, get the checked baggage, go to the customs and pass security and everything else again?
NGO might work. But, while Nagoya is only 30 minutes or so on the Shinkansen to Kyoto. It gets to be 1h22m as shortest option from Chubu Airport. There might be a point to a flight to Haneda and the Shinkansen from Shinagawa if no domestic flights match the schedule.
#1631
Join Date: May 2018
Programs: JMB
Posts: 132
Moving to Haneda gives far more domestic options. If you are on LH and the connection became below MCT in NRT, try to get them to move you to FRA KIX.
NGO might work. But, while Nagoya is only 30 minutes or so on the Shinkansen to Kyoto. It gets to be 1h22m as shortest option from Chubu Airport. There might be a point to a flight to Haneda and the Shinkansen from Shinagawa if no domestic flights match the schedule.
NGO might work. But, while Nagoya is only 30 minutes or so on the Shinkansen to Kyoto. It gets to be 1h22m as shortest option from Chubu Airport. There might be a point to a flight to Haneda and the Shinkansen from Shinagawa if no domestic flights match the schedule.
But after checking all the different options we decided a connecting flight after entering Japan is no good idea (as you have to get all your baggage for customs and checking in again). We will fly FRA-NRT and NGO-NRT-FRA when leaving Japan (so we can check-in the baggage at NGO with no problems and just doing security at Narita).
The only thing left is when to buy the tickets
#1632
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 19
Thanks for your advice. The main thing is: my wife wants to fly in the evening so we also arrive in the evening and she can get so sleep soon (she cannot sleep well in an airplane). So JAL is the preferred airline here.
But after checking all the different options we decided a connecting flight after entering Japan is no good idea (as you have to get all your baggage for customs and checking in again). We will fly FRA-NRT and NGO-NRT-FRA when leaving Japan (so we can check-in the baggage at NGO with no problems and just doing security at Narita).
The only thing left is when to buy the tickets
But after checking all the different options we decided a connecting flight after entering Japan is no good idea (as you have to get all your baggage for customs and checking in again). We will fly FRA-NRT and NGO-NRT-FRA when leaving Japan (so we can check-in the baggage at NGO with no problems and just doing security at Narita).
The only thing left is when to buy the tickets
So I going to flying from NYC to HND and stay a few days then take the bullet train to Kyoto and fly out from Osaka airport to Tokyo to NYC. Just want to confirm I don't have to collect and check in my baggage at Tokyo? Just security and immigration at Tokyo?
#1633
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I am in a similar situation too. Want to take my mom ( in her 70's) to Japan. I want to do Kyoto first and then Tokyo, since that is where I want to to do the shopping. Like you if I do Kyoto I have to transfer in Tokyo which meant I have to get the luggage, go through custom and recheck all the luggage again before jumping to another flight. I think it will be too tiresome to drag my mom for the transfer
So I going to flying from NYC to HND and stay a few days then take the bullet train to Kyoto and fly out from Osaka airport to Tokyo to NYC. Just want to confirm I don't have to collect and check in my baggage at Tokyo? Just security and immigration at Tokyo?
So I going to flying from NYC to HND and stay a few days then take the bullet train to Kyoto and fly out from Osaka airport to Tokyo to NYC. Just want to confirm I don't have to collect and check in my baggage at Tokyo? Just security and immigration at Tokyo?
#1634
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: TYO
Programs: Tokyo Monorail Diamond-Encrusted-Platinum
Posts: 9,633
If you fly ITM -> HND -> NYC on JAL, then sure ... JAL will transfer your bags at HND and you won't have to touch them until you reach NYC.
If you fly KIX -> NRT -> Ground transport -> HND -> NYC, then you will have a very laborious connection for which you will be carrying all your luggage.
#1635
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kobe/Osaka
Programs: Delta
Posts: 1,587
ANA or JAL, the only two airlines at Itami, will check your bags all the way through to the final destination. Many more flights to HND, so makes sense to make final departure from there. Another nice thing about ITM is that it's a small, convenient airport. No need to get there more than an hour or so before departure to check in to the flight. There are several limousine bus routes to ITM from the general area (Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe, etc.).
https://www.okkbus.co.jp/en/route/itm/
https://www.okkbus.co.jp/en/route/itm/