Ski-in/out resort
#227
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#228
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My two cents are irrelevant here, since I don't ski, but in an era when everyone has thousands of songs available on their personal devices I would prefer all places that "blast" music as if we were all a homogenous mass to stop doing that. The first time one witnesses people at the gym nonchalantly working out to music with very violent and sexually explicit lyrics, it's somewhat amusing, but it quickly gets old.
When I go to the mountains it's outside of ski season and they're very tranquil. I like them that way.
When I go to the mountains it's outside of ski season and they're very tranquil. I like them that way.
#230
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My two cents are irrelevant here, since I don't ski, but in an era when everyone has thousands of songs available on their personal devices I would prefer all places that "blast" music as if we were all a homogenous mass to stop doing that. The first time one witnesses people at the gym nonchalantly working out to music with very violent and sexually explicit lyrics, it's somewhat amusing, but it quickly gets old.
When I go to the mountains it's outside of ski season and they're very tranquil. I like them that way.
When I go to the mountains it's outside of ski season and they're very tranquil. I like them that way.
I've never been to a N.American resort that does this (although every place blasts music, usually rock/alternative, at cafeterias).
Since I listen to J-pop, it's great for me. Music helps make lift rides less boring. I don't take head/earphone when skiing... think that's quite dangerous. But I guess I have excessive need for some type of music playing in the background whenever possible.
Having a blast in Utah right now. Next up: Rusutsu.
#231
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I guess the notion that Japanese people are happy to have the same music played for everyone on the side of a mountain would fit with people's image of Japan being a group-oriented society. I don't know if there's anything in that. I think there may be a wider trend for people everywhere to be uncomfortable with silence. I am probably unusually intolerant of "zatsu-on." When I come across a TV or radio "zats on" with nobody actively paying attention to it, I want to hit the power button - I'm more comfortable once "zats off."
#232
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Thanks! Furano is dry, needs more snow. Did a piste day with the newbies, teaching how to board, first.
yesterday was asahidake backcountry and today will be the same.
tomorrow hopefully hitting an abandoned ski resort to teach some intro to backcountry
hope Utah has snow!
yesterday was asahidake backcountry and today will be the same.
tomorrow hopefully hitting an abandoned ski resort to teach some intro to backcountry
hope Utah has snow!
#233
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Thanks! Furano is dry, needs more snow. Did a piste day with the newbies, teaching how to board, first.
yesterday was asahidake backcountry and today will be the same.
tomorrow hopefully hitting an abandoned ski resort to teach some intro to backcountry
hope Utah has snow!
yesterday was asahidake backcountry and today will be the same.
tomorrow hopefully hitting an abandoned ski resort to teach some intro to backcountry
hope Utah has snow!
Too bad about the snow there. No shortage of snow in Utah. Got fresh ungroomed dry powder up above ankles yesterday, which is amazing fun but also physically quite demanding.
#234
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The website finally shows West Gondola as up and running .
#235
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I'm thinking of doing Rusutsu next season, don't want to skip more than 1 season and then end up forgetting everything I learned last season
Kid will be ~16 months, too young to do anything, so if we end up going we'll dump him at daycare: https://www.hokkaido-rusutsu.com/en-...age_id=4982994
Just a confirmation if you happen to know -- the daycare is in the 'Rusutsu Resort,' of which Westin is also a part of & is attached to via (covered but not heated) monorail, right? As in, I should be able to stay in either the Westin or the Rusutsu Resort Hotel, and not have to stick only to the latter?
Kid will be ~16 months, too young to do anything, so if we end up going we'll dump him at daycare: https://www.hokkaido-rusutsu.com/en-...age_id=4982994
Just a confirmation if you happen to know -- the daycare is in the 'Rusutsu Resort,' of which Westin is also a part of & is attached to via (covered but not heated) monorail, right? As in, I should be able to stay in either the Westin or the Rusutsu Resort Hotel, and not have to stick only to the latter?
Last edited by shuigao; Jan 28, 2020 at 6:25 pm
#236
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I'm thinking of doing Rusutsu next season, don't want to skip more than 1 season and then end up forgetting everything I learned last season
Kid will be ~16 months, too young to do anything, so if we end up going we'll dump him at daycare: https://www.hokkaido-rusutsu.com/en-...age_id=4982994
Just a confirmation if you happen to know -- the daycare is in the 'Rusutsu Resort,' of which Westin is also a part of & is attached to via (covered but not heated) monorail, right? As in, I should be able to stay in either the Westin or the Rusutsu Resort Hotel, and not have to stick only to the latter?
Kid will be ~16 months, too young to do anything, so if we end up going we'll dump him at daycare: https://www.hokkaido-rusutsu.com/en-...age_id=4982994
Just a confirmation if you happen to know -- the daycare is in the 'Rusutsu Resort,' of which Westin is also a part of & is attached to via (covered but not heated) monorail, right? As in, I should be able to stay in either the Westin or the Rusutsu Resort Hotel, and not have to stick only to the latter?
Depending on how you plan to work out your schedule, it may be easier to stay over on that side. The monorail is the only way to go between Westin and Rusutsu Resort, and it is a slow service. Let's say you are staying at Westin and you do the breakfast buffet (which starts at 7am) at the earliest possible time. Then you head back to the room to get changed and get your child ready. Maybe it's already 8.30am by then. And then you head down and, worst-case, you just missed the monorail. So then you don't get to Highland Lodge for another 20-25min. While you could gear up beforehand in the Westin locker room and then drop the kid off and start the day over on the West side, the main area is the East/Isola and furthermore it's not very feasible to have your gear plus your toddler. So then you've gotta come back to Westin to gear up and then by the time you finally get to the slopes it might be close to 10am.
I definitely think it's doable, though. But I think it might be easier to find a place where your hotel, daycare and ski area base are all at the same location.
#237
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shuigao,
Here's my comprehensive review of Rusutsu
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30853488-post141.html
Here's my comprehensive review of Rusutsu
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30853488-post141.html
#238
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,485
Well that’s Furano done for me. Recommend the Naturwald as a decent location in Kitanomine with lots of restaurants and such nearby, basically ski in/out as it’s over the road from the gondola and lift, very simple to get to.
Snow in central Hokkaido is less deep than the West (Niseko/Rusutsu) but generally preserves well as it’s colder and gets less hard hit, though crowds are definitely increasing.
Off to Canada for 2 weeks of snow now, will see how that goes but a rain/freeze layer from last few days means higher avalanche risk.
Next year Japan is hopefully going to be 3-4 week Hokkaido tour with the La Vista Daisetsuzan on the cards for a few nights. Very nice hotel with an excellent onsen.
Snow in central Hokkaido is less deep than the West (Niseko/Rusutsu) but generally preserves well as it’s colder and gets less hard hit, though crowds are definitely increasing.
Off to Canada for 2 weeks of snow now, will see how that goes but a rain/freeze layer from last few days means higher avalanche risk.
Next year Japan is hopefully going to be 3-4 week Hokkaido tour with the La Vista Daisetsuzan on the cards for a few nights. Very nice hotel with an excellent onsen.
#239
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Well that’s Furano done for me. Recommend the Naturwald as a decent location in Kitanomine with lots of restaurants and such nearby, basically ski in/out as it’s over the road from the gondola and lift, very simple to get to.
Snow in central Hokkaido is less deep than the West (Niseko/Rusutsu) but generally preserves well as it’s colder and gets less hard hit, though crowds are definitely increasing.
Off to Canada for 2 weeks of snow now, will see how that goes but a rain/freeze layer from last few days means higher avalanche risk.
Next year Japan is hopefully going to be 3-4 week Hokkaido tour with the La Vista Daisetsuzan on the cards for a few nights. Very nice hotel with an excellent onsen.
Snow in central Hokkaido is less deep than the West (Niseko/Rusutsu) but generally preserves well as it’s colder and gets less hard hit, though crowds are definitely increasing.
Off to Canada for 2 weeks of snow now, will see how that goes but a rain/freeze layer from last few days means higher avalanche risk.
Next year Japan is hopefully going to be 3-4 week Hokkaido tour with the La Vista Daisetsuzan on the cards for a few nights. Very nice hotel with an excellent onsen.
I've been studying Furano's trail map. How's the on-piste experience there? It seems like a big mountain with lots of promise, but I don't know if I like the lift layout. They have 2 high-speed lifts, but I feel like they put them in places that are kind of meaningless for non-beginners. I see that there're 2 high-speed quads, but there's a total of just 1 run off of those 2 quads combined that's not beginner.
#240
Join Date: Sep 2009
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I brought a group of 12, with 3 beginners (first time ever) and 3 beginner-intermediated and 6 experienced skiers.
we can cover the entire place in morning easily and be mostly done with it.
the intermediated had fun over about 3 piste days and the beginners really stuck to the lifts.
your read of the map is correct, you need to use the gondola or ropeway to get up. The link lift gets you between the resorts but coming back is FLAT. Not fun for boarders but pretty doable with some skating.
its a nice place, I like it as a base with lots of restaurants and real shops if needed.
english ski lessons and hire are now readily available from multiple shops though need to be booked in advance nowadays/at peak times.
we can cover the entire place in morning easily and be mostly done with it.
the intermediated had fun over about 3 piste days and the beginners really stuck to the lifts.
your read of the map is correct, you need to use the gondola or ropeway to get up. The link lift gets you between the resorts but coming back is FLAT. Not fun for boarders but pretty doable with some skating.
its a nice place, I like it as a base with lots of restaurants and real shops if needed.
english ski lessons and hire are now readily available from multiple shops though need to be booked in advance nowadays/at peak times.