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nishimark Jun 18, 2019 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by dpd82 (Post 31216238)
Considering a short connection at NRT. Arriving NRT on UA with 1 checked bag. Departing Miat 1:10 minutes later. These would be separate tickets. I usually fly through ICN and know where to go to have my bag transferred to Miat. Would I have enough time to make this connection? Thanks.

I wouldn't do it. Too many unknown variables, such as your landing time and how many are in line in front of you at immigration. When does check-in for Miat shut down?

ksandness Jun 19, 2019 8:17 am


Originally Posted by nishimark (Post 31216624)
I wouldn't do it. Too many unknown variables, such as your landing time and how many are in line in front of you at immigration. When does check-in for Miat shut down?

The walk from the arrival gate to transfer security by itself is quite a hike (I should time it some day), and if your flight is late and/or the transfer security line is long, you may miss Miat's deadline.

As long as you're transferring international to international and not going landside, Immigration is irrelevant, but still, counting on a 70-minute connection time is living dangerously.

Insiderdude Jun 26, 2019 2:46 am

Help - INT/INT transfer at NRT
 
Hi FT community- we are flying out tomorrow so thought would ask some quick advice.

Flying SAN-NRT on JL65 in J arriving 4:45pm

3:40 connection; then

Flying NRT-ICN on OZ9604 in Y departing at 8:25pm.

Completely separate tickets (JL on an AA award, OZ via cash purchase) and separate PNRs. Will have checked luggage - no option not to check bags.

Can I get JL to tag all the way through to ICN? That would be ideal.

If not, then what is the immigration, bag collection, customs, terminal transfer, and re-check in process like? Is there a quick “transfer” option to be able to do this airside? If not, we are assuming at 3:40 connect time, we should be just fine.

Any advice? I tried getting the JL call center to add the OZ seg in their PNR as a passive segment (I used to be able to do that as an agent) so JL check in counter in SAN could see it and tag thru to ICN easier, but their call center didn’t know how to do it.

Thanks!!

CPH-Flyer Jun 26, 2019 4:50 am

JAL can check through to OZ. As it is a non alliance partner, there is no policy saying they will do it. And I have never seen any reports on this combo. Bring a print of your e ticket on OZ, and don't do online check in before JAL tries to check the luggage through.

Iff this fails, you will need to clear immigration ø, reclaim your luggage, transfer to terminal 1 and recheck your bags. OZ and JL are in different terminals, the terminals are not connected so I don't see an alterative to this.

OZ bag drop/check in will close an hour before departure, you need about 20 minutes to move between terminals including an average wait for a bus, and at least 30 minutes from landing until you are past customs. If immigration lines are long, more than that. It does not leave a lot of wriggle room.

Insiderdude Jun 27, 2019 11:32 pm

CPH - thanks for the response, you were pretty close.

Thought I’d just update everyone here for information’s sake. Long story short, I was able to get SAN ticket counter to tag bags all the way through to ICN. Great J check in staff member (I think contracted/non JL native) that checked with JL-employed supervisor once I gave him a copy of my OZ PNR going NRT-ICN. They were able to tag it all the way through. Great customer service overall, I must admit.

The transfer in NRT was a breeze. Came into T2, went to international connections, hopped on the inter-terminal bus to T1, got BPs and spent the remainder of the 2 hours in the ANA lounge.

Bags came out on belt on ICN. Though on OZ’s LCC, still had the JL OW priority tag on it and it came out first. Only the FT community would find that amusing. :p

Thanks CPH for chiming in!

Desirees Jul 18, 2019 6:51 am

We arrive into HND at 6:50am, and our flight from NRT leaves at 10:50am - it looks like it takes about 1.5 hrs to transfer....do you all think we are cutting it too fine - knowing we will have to collect luggage/immigration - then take transportation ( probably limousine bus)? This is an award ticket which is on hold, so I still have the option to check if anything else is available.

Thanks,

D

Busymann Jul 18, 2019 6:56 am

I went from DCA to YYZ to HND, Air Canada with no problems.

Coming home was KIX (ANA) to HND to YYZ to DCA, Air Canada.

Originally we had a 1hr 15min layover in HND but the ANA rep changed us to an earlier flight due to the connection time which gave us a little over 2hrs.

Well, we made our flight to YYZ easily. However, between there and DCA, our bags didn't make it. Got them the next day deliver to our house.

nishimark Jul 18, 2019 7:25 am

Minimum connection time between HND and NRT is 3.5 hours. Frankly, that's cutting it close, but the airlines have enough confidence to schedule it. If all on same ticket, if you miss second flight, they will take care of you. Whether that's good enough is up to you. Yes, limo bus is the way to do it.


Originally Posted by Desirees (Post 31316552)
We arrive into HND at 6:50am, and our flight from NRT leaves at 10:50am - it looks like it takes about 1.5 hrs to transfer....do you all think we are cutting it too fine - knowing we will have to collect luggage/immigration - then take transportation ( probably limousine bus)? This is an award ticket which is on hold, so I still have the option to check if anything else is available.

Thanks,

D


CPH-Flyer Jul 18, 2019 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by Desirees (Post 31316552)
We arrive into HND at 6:50am, and our flight from NRT leaves at 10:50am - it looks like it takes about 1.5 hrs to transfer....do you all think we are cutting it too fine - knowing we will have to collect luggage/immigration - then take transportation ( probably limousine bus)? This is an award ticket which is on hold, so I still have the option to check if anything else is available.

Thanks,

D

Where do you arrive from? Bangkok and Singapore flights have a tendency to come in early, which could help you a bit.

Traffic in the morning is mainly heading in to Tokyo, where as the way you are going is heading out of Tokyo, so I would not expect much in terms of traffic delays, so should be fine. Just not much time to stop and smell the roses.

Desirees Jul 18, 2019 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 31318489)
Where do you arrive from? Bangkok and Singapore flights have a tendency to come in early, which could help you a bit.

Traffic in the morning is mainly heading in to Tokyo, where as the way you are going is heading out of Tokyo, so I would not expect much in terms of traffic delays, so should be fine. Just not much time to stop and smell the roses.

We are coming in from BKK - but will probably NOT take this flight since I dont want to take any chances missing our flights.

barneyb Jul 21, 2019 2:16 pm

Hi

I'm traveling to Japan around new years, and wanted to check if the below connection at HND is doable on 26th Dec. Given the time of year understand the airport will be fairly busy.

Transiting at HND
Arriving on BA at 07:35
Departing on JL domestic at 10:30
Connection time - 2:55
Connecting Int to Dom
Will be traveling on separate tickets

Thanks - Barney

nishimark Jul 21, 2019 3:50 pm

Should be no problem. December 26 will most likely be a normal day. Holiday rush won't start until 27th or even later. Even then, Haneda is an efficient airport.

thecowgoesmoo Jul 27, 2019 5:48 pm

Hello! I know the following would be on the tight side, but would it be too tight?

INT-INT @ NRT, November 22
Connection time: 95 minutes
Arriving on NH 5 (from LAX) at 4:25pm (T1S)
Departing on JL 809 (to TPE) at 6:00pm (T2)
Separate tickets

I would prefer having a checked bag; however, if that would be the difference in whether I can make it, I guess I could do without!

EDIT: I am arriving in First on ANA and would be departing in Business on JAL.

evergrn Jul 27, 2019 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by thecowgoesmoo (Post 31349762)
Hello! I know the following would be on the tight side, but would it be too tight?

INT-INT @ NRT, November 22
Connection time: 95 minutes
Arriving on NH 5 (from LAX) at 4:25pm (T1S)
Departing on JL 809 (to TPE) at 6:00pm (T2)
Separate tickets

I would prefer having a checked bag; however, if that would be the difference in whether I can make it, I guess I could do without!

That is really tight.
First of all, I'm not sure that there is an airside shuttle from T1 to T2. I have seen folks claim there is one. But I'm not sure that they're still running that.
Assuming you have to enter Jpn and transfer landside, assuming on-time arrival, and assuming you only do carry-on and assuming it takes 30min from being parked at the gate until you've cleared passport control (30min to deplane, walk to immigration, queue, passport check), I think you'll probably end up getting to JAL gate ~25min before departure time. That means that, assuming they close the gate 10min before departure time, you might be in trouble if your flight is running >15min late.

Things would be completely different, though, if there was such thing as an airside shuttle. It would also help if you're flying in premium cabin on NH, thus reducing the deplaning time.

thecowgoesmoo Jul 27, 2019 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 31349819)
It would also help if you're flying in premium cabin on NH, thus reducing the deplaning time.

FWIW, I would be arriving in First on NH and departing in Business on JAL. I’ve added that to the original post.

This page mentions a shuttle; is this the airside shuttle?https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/con...nter_inter_t1/


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