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dxwwf3 Dec 5, 2019 9:46 am

Narita Transfer Question
 
Hello. In a few months I'll be transferring from a domestic flight from ITM in Osaka to NRT on ANA Airlines. Then I'll be traveling from NRT to SIN on Japan Airlines. I know I'll have to switch terminals, but I'm wondering if I'll be able to stay airside for the entire time and re-check in my baggage with JAL when I arrive? I can't seem to find out if there are ways to check in luggage airside at NRT with different airlines. Any help would be appreciated!

Desirees Dec 7, 2019 6:10 am

  • The airport(s) at which you are transiting - flying into HND, out from NRT
  • The airline on which you are arriving JAL
  • The airline on which you are departing - JAL
  • Your connection time in hours/minutes - 4hrs
  • How you are connecting, whether international to international (Int-Int), international to domestic (Int-Dom), domestic to international - (Dom-Int), or domestic to domestic (Dom-Dom) - INT to INT
  • Whether you are traveling on a single ticket, or separately-booked tickets - Single

AA award ticket on J. We were to fly into NRT and out of NRT to Hanoi. JAL changed airports so now we have to get to NRT in 4 hrs. We get into HND at 2:20p on the 2nd of April. JAL is saying we can make it . Can you please let me know your thoughts? I am seriously contemplating changing tickets to stay in Japan for 3 days and cutting out Hanoi altogether since if we miss the flight it would not be worthwhile to go to Hanoi just for one day. We have to be in Saigon on the 5th. Thanks you for any help you can give me.

mnbp Dec 7, 2019 6:30 am


Originally Posted by dxwwf3 (Post 31808520)
Hello. In a few months I'll be transferring from a domestic flight from ITM in Osaka to NRT on ANA Airlines. Then I'll be traveling from NRT to SIN on Japan Airlines. I know I'll have to switch terminals, but I'm wondering if I'll be able to stay airside for the entire time and re-check in my baggage with JAL when I arrive? I can't seem to find out if there are ways to check in luggage airside at NRT with different airlines. Any help would be appreciated!

According to
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/con.../dom_inter_t1/
which describes domestic to international transfers at NRT, you will have to use the landside bus to transfer from Domestic T1 to T2, and then check in with JAL at T2.

CPH-Flyer Dec 7, 2019 7:55 am


Originally Posted by dxwwf3 (Post 31808520)
Hello. In a few months I'll be transferring from a domestic flight from ITM in Osaka to NRT on ANA Airlines. Then I'll be traveling from NRT to SIN on Japan Airlines. I know I'll have to switch terminals, but I'm wondering if I'll be able to stay airside for the entire time and re-check in my baggage with JAL when I arrive? I can't seem to find out if there are ways to check in luggage airside at NRT with different airlines. Any help would be appreciated!

ANA will most likely be able to check your luggage through to JAL.

However, you would still need to go land side to do the transfer, you would need to proceed to arrivals change terminal and go through security and immigration. As you need to go to the immigration check they can't do the airside transfer.

CPH-Flyer Dec 7, 2019 8:00 am


Originally Posted by Desirees (Post 31815133)
  • The airport(s) at which you are transiting - flying into HND, out from NRT
  • The airline on which you are arriving JAL
  • The airline on which you are departing - JAL
  • Your connection time in hours/minutes - 4hrs
  • How you are connecting, whether international to international (Int-Int), international to domestic (Int-Dom), domestic to international - (Dom-Int), or domestic to domestic (Dom-Dom) - INT to INT
  • Whether you are traveling on a single ticket, or separately-booked tickets - Single

AA award ticket on J. We were to fly into NRT and out of NRT to Hanoi. JAL changed airports so now we have to get to NRT in 4 hrs. We get into HND at 2:20p on the 2nd of April. JAL is saying we can make it . Can you please let me know your thoughts? I am seriously contemplating changing tickets to stay in Japan for 3 days and cutting out Hanoi altogether since if we miss the flight it would not be worthwhile to go to Hanoi just for one day. We have to be in Saigon on the 5th. Thanks you for any help you can give me.

4 hours from Haneda to Narita is doable, and is within MCT. the time of day should offer little traffic, so the bus should be fine with one hour, and they run pretty frequently.

leland Dec 8, 2019 11:20 pm

Looking for advice on improving my connection... currently have a 8 hr Dom-Int NRT layover on Saturday 18-Jan, but I need to leave CTS at 7:50 am to make that happen. That's painful and also a bit risky to get to the airport from downtown Sapporo (I need to be there Friday night - no flexibility on that). Basically must make first unreservable bus or train that is sometimes snowed out then have zero delays. Otherwise missed flight. Please feel free to direct me to an alternative thread for suggestions on improving that transfer if answering that is o/t here.

Debating whether any option below is preferable to the early morning Sapporo-CTS departure:
  1. Connect from HND-NRT instead - annoying, although I could leave myself 5 hours for this as my NRT-LAX flight is at 5:05 pm.
  2. A 1:05 Int-Dom connection (CTS-NGO-NRT) - seems risky and very risky in winter
  3. A split ticket with Peach or Jetstar for CTS-NRT direct at better timing - best timing, but split ticket with LCC also a risk
The default option is to just stuff it and read the NRT layover threads and cross my fingers for no issues with the Sapporo bus that morning.

Summary:
  • Transiting NRT
  • Arriving JAL (domestic); debating whether options above are safe
  • Departing JAL (international) NRT-LAX at 5:05 pm
  • Dom-Int connection
  • Single ticket, debating whether or not to break

CPH-Flyer Dec 9, 2019 12:12 am


Originally Posted by leland (Post 31820320)
Looking for advice on improving my connection... currently have a 8 hr Dom-Int NRT layover on Saturday 18-Jan, but I need to leave CTS at 7:50 am to make that happen. That's painful and also a bit risky to get to the airport from downtown Sapporo (I need to be there Friday night - no flexibility on that). Basically must make first unreservable bus or train that is sometimes snowed out then have zero delays. Otherwise missed flight. Please feel free to direct me to an alternative thread for suggestions on improving that transfer if answering that is o/t here.

Debating whether any option below is preferable to the early morning Sapporo-CTS departure:
  1. Connect from HND-NRT instead - annoying, although I could leave myself 5 hours for this as my NRT-LAX flight is at 5:05 pm.
  2. A 1:05 Int-Dom connection (CTS-NGO-NRT) - seems risky and very risky in winter
  3. A split ticket with Peach or Jetstar for CTS-NRT direct at better timing - best timing, but split ticket with LCC also a risk
The default option is to just stuff it and read the NRT layover threads and cross my fingers for no issues with the Sapporo bus that morning.

Summary:
  • Transiting NRT
  • Arriving JAL (domestic); debating whether options above are safe
  • Departing JAL (international) NRT-LAX at 5:05 pm
  • Dom-Int connection
  • Single ticket, debating whether or not to break

The 06:02 and 06:16 trains will get you to there with time to spare, but not much. You would need to check in 30 minutes before for international connections. There is not much time for delay, but usually trains are reliable, unless there is a snow chaos beyond reason. But that will probably affect your flight as much or more than the trains. If you are worried about the risk of the early departure, I would suggest the HND to NRT connection. A bit annoying as it is, it is not all that bad. Take the bus and you'll ride in reasonable comfort without having to drag your luggage through local trans and connections in Tokyo.

leland Dec 9, 2019 1:27 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 31820418)
If you are worried about the risk of the early departure, I would suggest the HND to NRT connection. A bit annoying as it is, it is not all that bad. Take the bus and you'll ride in reasonable comfort without having to drag your luggage through local trans and connections in Tokyo.

Thanks for the advice, while annoying the extra hour or two of sleep will also be worth the bus ride. I will try to flip it to the 10 am CTS-HND flight. That should get me to NRT with ~3 hrs to enjoy the lounge. Or should I try for the 9 am to allow for more cushion?

CPH-Flyer Dec 9, 2019 2:09 am


Originally Posted by leland (Post 31820534)
Thanks for the advice, while annoying the extra hour or two of sleep will also be worth the bus ride. I will try to flip it to the 10 am CTS-HND flight. That should get me to NRT with ~3 hrs to enjoy the lounge. Or should I try for the 9 am to allow for more cushion?

10am should be plenty fine.

leland Dec 9, 2019 11:33 pm

Thanks, rebooked for CTS-HND. Feels silly to purposefully go HND-NRT but sometimes silly is the best option.

EuroFlash Dec 29, 2019 12:05 pm

Got one coming up:
  • The airport(s) at which you are transiting: FUK
  • The airline on which you are arriving : Finnair
  • The airline on which you are departing: JAL
  • Your connection time in hours/minutes: 3hr 45m
  • How you are connecting, whether international to international (Int-Int), international to domestic (Int-Dom), domestic to international (Dom-Int), or domestic to domestic (Dom-Dom): INT-DOM
  • Whether you are traveling on a single ticket, or separately-booked tickets: single ticket.

I’d suppose this should be all fine, but can’t find much about it such transfer at FUK...

mnbp Dec 29, 2019 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by EuroFlash (Post 31886582)
Got one coming up:
  • The airport(s) at which you are transiting: FUK
  • The airline on which you are arriving : Finnair
  • The airline on which you are departing: JAL
  • Your connection time in hours/minutes: 3hr 45m
  • How you are connecting, whether international to international (Int-Int), international to domestic (Int-Dom), domestic to international (Dom-Int), or domestic to domestic (Dom-Dom): INT-DOM
  • Whether you are traveling on a single ticket, or separately-booked tickets: single ticket.

I’d suppose this should be all fine, but can’t find much about it such transfer at FUK...

This is covered by the last question in the FAQ on the airport web site.
https://www.fukuoka-airport.jp/english/question.html

Q. Transfer counter for passengers connecting from an international flight to a domestic flight

A. Fukuoka Airport does not have a transfer counter for passengers connecting from international flights to domestic flights. The International and Domestic Terminals at Fukuoka Airport are located apart. To move between terminals, use the Free Shuttle Bus service (free terminal shuttle bus, traveling time: approximately 10 - 15 minutes). For more information, see Access Information > Free Shuttle Bus.

CPH-Flyer Dec 30, 2019 2:14 am

A new option for passengers with long connections has opened close to Narita Airport

There is now a hot spring with an outdoor bath as well, where is is possible to see the arriving and departing flights. There is also a capsule hotel and a 24 hour fitness center. So far the homepage seem to be in Japanese only.

https://soranoyu.com/

The easiest way seems to be to take the inter terminal bus to Higashi Narita Station, and then take the train to Shibayama Chiyoda Station (1 stop) and a brief walk from there.

bzcat Dec 30, 2019 11:24 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 31888361)
A new option for passengers with long connections has opened close to Narita Airport

There is now a hot spring with an outdoor bath as well, where is is possible to see the arriving and departing flights. There is also a capsule hotel and a 24 hour fitness center. So far the homepage seem to be in Japanese only.

https://soranoyu.com/

The easiest way seems to be to take the inter terminal bus to Higashi Narita Station, and then take the train to Shibayama Chiyoda Station (1 stop) and a brief walk from there.


This looks pretty nice way to spend a few hours. Will have to keep this in mind in the future. Thanks for sharing.

jix Jan 9, 2020 2:25 pm


Originally Posted by jix (Post 31537630)
I need to fly in early January 2020 to NRT with a 1:45 connection that requires change of terminal on separate tickets, how risky or safe is to book?

YUL 13:00 to NRT 16:15 (+1) on AC 5 arriving T1
then
NRT 18:00 to KHH 21:10 on JL 811 departing T2

Will not have baggage and walk pretty fast, assuming there's a winter delay at YUL and flight arrives ~1 hour late, is it still likely to make the next flight? From what I read I need to first get BP of second flight if not already printed, then clear transit security, then go the air side bus terminal transfer after deplaning from T1, then find gate at T2 right? Can all that be done in under 30 mins?

So I took a risk and now regret it. The AC5 flight today is almost an hour late arriving at 5:08pm gate NRT T1 and my next flight on JL departs T2 (likely from satelitte terminal) 6pm. The bus schedule T1 -> T2 is 5:12pm and takes 15 minutes, if I miss it then next bus is 5:42pm which means I'll miss the flight. If by the time I deplane it's already past 5:12pm, should I still wait for the next airside bus or try to make it landside and take the shuttle bus or train or taxi?

I already have BP printed and know where to run, what should I do in the mean time? AC and JL do not know I'm on separate tickets at the moment.

If I miss the flight and JL won't help to put me on a different flight (CI to TPE for example), can I exit T2 airside and go to T3 and buy a new ticket on LCC? Or T1 for that matter if I can find tickets.


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