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I'm on a profession-oriented mailing list with a lot of Western expats who live in Japan full time, and they thought the Times article was off base, too.
I wouldn't write Japan off any time soon. They have shown an astounding ability to reinvent themselves, whether it was becoming the first Asian country to industrialize in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries or becoming a major economic player, hosting the Olympics, and launching the first Shinkansen a mere 19 years after having all their major cities bombed flat. |
Just about every journalist who covers Japan for a non-Japanese media outlet is totally clueless. NYT's Martin Fackler, CNN's Kyung Lah and WIRED's Lisa Katayama are particularly bad, in the sense that they tend to take outlier stories and spin them into an overblown "look at how crazy and/or dead Japan is!" narrative.
The only one who I would call "really good," or even just "good," is NYT's Hiroko Tabuchi, who churns out interesting non-sensationalist articles regularly and captures all the amazing things that Japanese companies and individuals are doing on a daily basis. |
Here are YouTube video clips that show a pretty amazing Japanese robotic snake project:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8j0jNxMeSQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQmF31eghk |
Originally Posted by ksandness
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I wouldn't write Japan off any time soon. They have shown an astounding ability to reinvent themselves, whether it was becoming the first Asian country to industrialize in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries or becoming a major economic player, hosting the Olympics, and launching the first Shinkansen a mere 19 years after having all their major cities bombed flat.
However, I don't think Japan is getting out of the current predicaments anytime soon. It would take leadership and a willingness to accept change and pain that accompanies it, and I don't really see all of them, especially political leadership. |
I think this time is different too.
LDP is out. The bureaucrats are just steady as she goes with a musical chairs cabinet. People have no influence on national policy in the practical sense. Population is falling and no mean of increase such as immigration policy, or NO is the policy. There is really no real direction at the moment. 80 yen to a dollar will stick around a lot longer than last time. |
Originally Posted by SJUAMMF
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80 yen to a dollar will stick around a lot longer than last time.
I went to Costco yesterday - things seemed ridiculously cheap. |
Originally Posted by acregal
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As I get paid in yen I have no problems with that.
I went to Costco yesterday - things seemed ridiculously cheap. |
Originally Posted by joejones
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Just about every journalist who covers Japan for a non-Japanese media outlet is totally clueless. NYT's Martin Fackler, CNN's Kyung Lah and WIRED's Lisa Katayama are particularly bad, in the sense that they tend to take outlier stories and spin them into an overblown "look at how crazy and/or dead Japan is!" narrative.
The only one who I would call "really good," or even just "good," is NYT's Hiroko Tabuchi, who churns out interesting non-sensationalist articles regularly and captures all the amazing things that Japanese companies and individuals are doing on a daily basis. Having stepped back a bit from the weeds, I do see that Japan is in trouble, maybe even big trouble. The unwillingness of most people in many areas of endeavor, including government, large corporations, and small, entrepreneurial firms, to actually step up and take a risk is very damaging in the long run. Expecting others to step up and move things forward because of risk aversion is leading Japan towards a sclerosis that is self-reinforcing. Maybe Japan needs to be bombed by North Korea, that should get their juices flowing. |
I think locals underestimate the huge societal cost imposed on Japan by its banking system.
For decades now, every resident of Japan has been royally screwed by these banks, who charge not twice as much as in every other country, but at least ten times as much. And, in a culture where service is highly valued, in return for those ridiculous fees, the banks provide absolutely abysmal service. It's a huge drain on the entire economy, one that could easily be set right. Yet Japanese put up with it even though it would be readily fixable. Why? Maybe because the banks are good at paying off the government. Simple reforms here would go a long way towards changing the country as a whole. |
Originally Posted by Pickles
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Having stepped back a bit from the weeds, I do see that Japan is in trouble, maybe even big trouble. The unwillingness of most people in many areas of endeavor, including government, large corporations, and small, entrepreneurial firms, to actually step up and take a risk is very damaging in the long run. Expecting others to step up and move things forward because of risk aversion is leading Japan towards a sclerosis that is self-reinforcing. Maybe Japan needs to be bombed by North Korea, that should get their juices flowing.
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Originally Posted by Pickles
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The unwillingness of most people in many areas of endeavor, including government, large corporations, and small, entrepreneurial firms, to actually step up and take a risk is very damaging in the long run. Expecting others to step up and move things forward because of risk aversion is leading Japan towards a sclerosis that is self-reinforcing.
But I would disagree with the idea that large corporations don't want to take risks -- they are pretty much the only serious risk takers in Japan, and they do it on a huge scale, often more readily than large corporations in other developed countries. Think electronics companies committing to huge assembly lines during the height of the financial crisis, Nomura buying half of Lehman, etc. The real problem is that there is not enough game to be had at more granular tiers of the economy, unless you're in the con artist business. |
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Originally Posted by joejones
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So it's not really a cultural aversion to risk taking. Rather, the whole system offers overwhelming incentives for all underqualified and incompetent people to shut up and stay in line.
Originally Posted by JMOL
Law I: A robot may not harm a human or, by inaction, allow a human being to come to harm
Law II: A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the first law Law III: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the first or second law All NS-5's proceed as instructed. All NS-5's proceed as instructed. |
Originally Posted by joejones
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But I would disagree with the idea that large corporations don't want to take risks -- they are pretty much the only serious risk takers in Japan, and they do it on a huge scale, often more readily than large corporations in other developed countries. Think electronics companies committing to huge assembly lines during the height of the financial crisis, Nomura buying half of Lehman, etc.
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Sort of like the US did to Japan in the 50s and 60s? Maybe that's just what happens to all economies as they mature.
I am helping a Japanese friend who has started his own small company. He's a risk taker and if he fails at this one, he'll almost certainly try to start something else. It is true he'd never be hired by a keiretsu but I can't imagine that he wants to be. All of this doesn't take away from the problems Japan is facing. It is truly amazing that they aren't trying something now to deal with the problem of their aging population, but apparently Japanese nationalism (kinder term) or racism (less kind term) stands in the way of that. |
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