JAL to reopen HND JAL First Class Lounge on Mar 29 2020
Dec 10, 2023 | 8:44 pm
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So the shoe shine service is indeed back in Haneda, it starts from 7am. There was no indication of closing time, but when I arrived at 22:15 it was already closed. In the old days it was until 23:00 so one can hope that eventually happens again.
Though I have to say, the lounge sees a lot less footfall in the evenings than it did prepandemic. So I guess the JGCP, Diamond, and OWE population has taken a hit.
Though I have to say, the lounge sees a lot less footfall in the evenings than it did prepandemic. So I guess the JGCP, Diamond, and OWE population has taken a hit.
Dec 10, 2023 | 9:12 pm
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Dec 10, 2023 | 9:27 pm
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Dec 10, 2023 | 9:38 pm
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Well if Sakura is crowded and Flounge is less used then any of the following can be true: i) fewer JML/JGP/OWE ii) fewer F seats JL 41/42 Lhr hnd back to 789 ( have f reward flight) <-- probably a combination of the two?
Dec 14, 2023 | 10:02 am
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If i book my JAL flight for JFK-HND-SIN (JFK-HND on First, and HND-SIN on Ey), with a 5-6hrs transit in HND, i wonder would they allow me to enter HND First Class lounge on my arrival, with my onward sector (HND-SIN) only in EY class 
Any idea?
and how about if my HND-SIN sector is in Biz, would they still allow me to enter the HND First Class Lounge on my arrival in HND while transiting? there is no F class for HND-SIN sectors as they r operating with 787/767
Any idea?and how about if my HND-SIN sector is in Biz, would they still allow me to enter the HND First Class Lounge on my arrival in HND while transiting? there is no F class for HND-SIN sectors as they r operating with 787/767
Dec 14, 2023 | 4:47 pm
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If i book my JAL flight for JFK-HND-SIN (JFK-HND on First, and HND-SIN on Ey), with a 5-6hrs transit in HND, i wonder would they allow me to enter HND First Class lounge on my arrival, with my onward sector (HND-SIN) only in EY class Any idea?
and how about if my HND-SIN sector is in Biz, would they still allow me to enter the HND First Class Lounge on my arrival in HND while transiting? there is no F class for HND-SIN sectors as they r operating with 787/767
Any idea?and how about if my HND-SIN sector is in Biz, would they still allow me to enter the HND First Class Lounge on my arrival in HND while transiting? there is no F class for HND-SIN sectors as they r operating with 787/767
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
In your first scenario: you will not have access to ANY lounge in HND because HND > SIN is longer than 5 hours
In your second scenario: you will have access to the business class lounge
Dec 14, 2023 | 5:37 pm
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JAL doesn't publish specific rules on lounge access for I > I connections, so the oneworld lounge access rules will apply:
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
In your first scenario: you will not have access to ANY lounge in HND because HND > SIN is longer than 5 hours
In your second scenario: you will have access to the business class lounge
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
In your first scenario: you will not have access to ANY lounge in HND because HND > SIN is longer than 5 hours
In your second scenario: you will have access to the business class lounge
But JAL does have rules for international to international connections. Same day same airport connections will give F lounge access based on arriving in F. Same day as in operationally same day, meaning even the 00:10 Singapore flight would count as same day.
Dec 14, 2023 | 5:47 pm
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JAL doesn't publish specific rules on lounge access for I > I connections, so the oneworld lounge access rules will apply:
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
In your first scenario: you will not have access to ANY lounge in HND because HND > SIN is longer than 5 hours
In your second scenario: you will have access to the business class lounge
Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights: First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 06:00am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight. You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
In your first scenario: you will not have access to ANY lounge in HND because HND > SIN is longer than 5 hours
In your second scenario: you will have access to the business class lounge
Even without any benefit from the connection, there would be lounge access in Haneda in both cases, as both premium economy and business class gives lounges access.
But JAL does have rules for international to international connections. Same day same airport connections will give F lounge access based on arriving in F. Same day as in operationally same day, meaning even the 00:10 Singapore flight would count as same day.
But JAL does have rules for international to international connections. Same day same airport connections will give F lounge access based on arriving in F. Same day as in operationally same day, meaning even the 00:10 Singapore flight would count as same day.
Thanks all for the info.
And yea, i think i heard / read somewhere lastime where they mentioned about that same day connection does have lounge access based on arriving in F (for international pax), but i cant find the write-out of the statements anywhere and unable to recall where i heard / read about that...
only found the info about lounge access for International - Domestic sectors
Dec 14, 2023 | 6:26 pm
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So the shoe shine service is indeed back in Haneda, it starts from 7am. There was no indication of closing time, but when I arrived at 22:15 it was already closed. In the old days it was until 23:00 so one can hope that eventually happens again.
Though I have to say, the lounge sees a lot less footfall in the evenings than it did prepandemic. So I guess the JGCP, Diamond, and OWE population has taken a hit.
Though I have to say, the lounge sees a lot less footfall in the evenings than it did prepandemic. So I guess the JGCP, Diamond, and OWE population has taken a hit.
Dec 14, 2023 | 7:13 pm
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Thanks all for the info.
And yea, i think i heard / read somewhere lastime where they mentioned about that same day connection does have lounge access based on arriving in F (for international pax), but i cant find the write-out of the statements anywhere and unable to recall where i heard / read about that... only found the info about lounge access for International - Domestic sectors
And yea, i think i heard / read somewhere lastime where they mentioned about that same day connection does have lounge access based on arriving in F (for international pax), but i cant find the write-out of the statements anywhere and unable to recall where i heard / read about that...
only found the info about lounge access for International - Domestic sectors
Dec 14, 2023 | 7:34 pm
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As long as the dark side runs with the same policy, which is published, I doubt JAL will pull it...
Dec 14, 2023 | 11:35 pm
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Even without any benefit from the connection, there would be lounge access in Haneda in both cases, as both premium economy and business class gives lounges access.
But JAL does have rules for international to international connections. Same day same airport connections will give F lounge access based on arriving in F. Same day as in operationally same day, meaning even the 00:10 Singapore flight would count as same day.
But JAL does have rules for international to international connections. Same day same airport connections will give F lounge access based on arriving in F. Same day as in operationally same day, meaning even the 00:10 Singapore flight would count as same day.
Dec 14, 2023 | 11:45 pm
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Hi
Just left the jal f lounge for a cathay pacific flight to hkg
shoeshine was available from 1430 and the upstairs salon on 5f open from 1500
specialist sushi restaurant sign said only open from 0730 to 1100
another nice experience
Regards
Tbs
Just left the jal f lounge for a cathay pacific flight to hkg
shoeshine was available from 1430 and the upstairs salon on 5f open from 1500
specialist sushi restaurant sign said only open from 0730 to 1100
another nice experience
Regards
Tbs
May 2, 2024 | 4:59 am
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At HND? I could have swear I had sushi in the afternoon last year. What happened?