American AA vs. United UA [Consolidated]
#92
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This right here *almost* clinches the deal for UA. You have far, far more total options to/from Europe on Star Alliance. On an AA award, you're looking at AA, AB, and IB metal. Having to completely avoid BA metal and the largest OW hub in Europe completely diminishes the overall utility of AAdvantage to me. With Star, you have the whole alliance available to you with MileagePlus miles, mostly bookable online. No garbage fees...true awards.
True...but flying AA without status isn't much different. With your 100% travel patterns, you should be able to bulldog through to Gold status pretty quickly. In fact, your corporate travel agent may be able to turn your AF status into instant UA Silver. Low-tier at least gets you decent coach seats, expedited security, etc.
Quality-wise, UA and AA seem pretty similar to me. But the Star partners are a solid notch higher IMHO than the OW partners you'd be using as an award.
And it looks like you'll still have US in the Star fold...at least for a little while longer.
If you were going Asia quite a bit...or if you were specifically asking about 1K vs. EXP...I think the case for AA might be a bit stronger.
However, the stickler here is the lack of status. And with the quality of UA diminished recently (IMHO), I'm not in any hurry to travel with them-- especially without status.
Quality-wise, UA and AA seem pretty similar to me. But the Star partners are a solid notch higher IMHO than the OW partners you'd be using as an award.
And it looks like you'll still have US in the Star fold...at least for a little while longer.
If you were going Asia quite a bit...or if you were specifically asking about 1K vs. EXP...I think the case for AA might be a bit stronger.
#93
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 2
American Airlines v/s United Airlines
I am starting a new job that requires travelling. I am based in Dallas and mostly my travelling would be to New Orleans, Nashville, Florida area.
Few years back I was silver on US Airways, Gold on Delta and A List preferred on Southwest. I am all back to zero and no status on all of them.
I am torn here because the best connections that I could get are with United and American.
Now that I have to start all over again, I wanted to know which Frequent Flyer program I should choose. I would be making trips to India - Asia soon. So here I am torn between American ( one world ) or United ( Star Alliance ).
Clearly I would wanna use the elite status when travelling internationally but I want to make a nice educated choice.
Looking forward to your views- comments. Thanks in advance.
Few years back I was silver on US Airways, Gold on Delta and A List preferred on Southwest. I am all back to zero and no status on all of them.
I am torn here because the best connections that I could get are with United and American.
Now that I have to start all over again, I wanted to know which Frequent Flyer program I should choose. I would be making trips to India - Asia soon. So here I am torn between American ( one world ) or United ( Star Alliance ).
Clearly I would wanna use the elite status when travelling internationally but I want to make a nice educated choice.
Looking forward to your views- comments. Thanks in advance.
#94
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
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It's easier to choose a loyalty program when you know where you're going. Right now you're imagining traveling all over the place, but once you start your job it's quite likely you'll find there are a small number of destinations you're going to be traveling to repeatedly. It may even be just 1 place you're traveling to weekly or biweekly. Figure that out, then evaluate which airline(s) offer you the best choices to get there. Fortunately you don't have to make your decision about loyalty programs right now.
#95
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 57
Are the international tickets paid or award?
Personally, I think American rules Dfw so it makes the most sense to fly American. I'd assume nonstop availability is pretty limited on united out of there or on tiny planes with limited business class seats.
Personally, I think American rules Dfw so it makes the most sense to fly American. I'd assume nonstop availability is pretty limited on united out of there or on tiny planes with limited business class seats.
#97
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: CLE
Programs: UA Premier Platinum, HH Diamond
Posts: 32
It's easier to choose a loyalty program when you know where you're going. Right now you're imagining traveling all over the place, but once you start your job it's quite likely you'll find there are a small number of destinations you're going to be traveling to repeatedly. It may even be just 1 place you're traveling to weekly or biweekly. Figure that out, then evaluate which airline(s) offer you the best choices to get there. Fortunately you don't have to make your decision about loyalty programs right now.
#98
Join Date: Dec 2011
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That's what I was afraid of... But I just don't want to have to fly that long without status! Does UA do a status challenge like AA/US where you pay a bit and then fly a certain amount in 90 days? According to their website it doesn't look like they'd match an AF Silver
#99
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Well, that's still a consideration... with the AA promo, I will probably make PLT before the end of the year, and quite possibly EXP. But with UA, it will take me quite awhile to achieve a status that actually means something.
#100
Join Date: Feb 2012
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It's easier to choose a loyalty program when you know where you're going. Right now you're imagining traveling all over the place, but once you start your job it's quite likely you'll find there are a small number of destinations you're going to be traveling to repeatedly. It may even be just 1 place you're traveling to weekly or biweekly. Figure that out, then evaluate which airline(s) offer you the best choices to get there. Fortunately you don't have to make your decision about loyalty programs right now.
#101
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#103
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
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I don't know what kind of travel job you're taken, but most I'm familiar with that involve heavy travel do come down to patterns. That might be because you're assigned to a project that lasts 6+ months and you're going to the same customer site repeatedly. Or you're assigned to a geographical region and you primarily cover projects in that region. Or you're assigned to a project in a specific industry and, especially as you develop domain expertise in that industry, you are sent increasingly on projects in the city/cities where that industry is based.
#104
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First of all, welcome to FT!
As for advice...
I strongly agree with this.
Beyond that, there are arguments pro and con UA and AA. But on balance I think AA is a much better airline these days, in terms of customer service, reliability, help during weather and mechanical problems, upgrade possibilities, etc. After 20 years as a UA with 1K (100,000 miles per year) status, I am now concentrating on AA as an Executive Platinum (again, 100,000 miles per year) status.
As for advice...
Beyond that, there are arguments pro and con UA and AA. But on balance I think AA is a much better airline these days, in terms of customer service, reliability, help during weather and mechanical problems, upgrade possibilities, etc. After 20 years as a UA with 1K (100,000 miles per year) status, I am now concentrating on AA as an Executive Platinum (again, 100,000 miles per year) status.