Air India Privatization
Mar 24, 2022, 2:36 am
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Alliance Air is splitting off in the PSS too:
In view of Alliance Air migrating to a new PSS from 01 APR 2022 (Proposed), it has been decided that henceforth 9I sectors both in the form of Add-ons and 9I Fare combinations will not be allowed with AI fares .
We are already in the process of changing filing region-wise and the whole exercise is planned to be completed by 23 March 2022. It may have been observed that for some regions the updated filing are already in place, which will be extended on to entire network of Air India.
In other words, this would result in the following scenarios, as below,
Until now both End on end /Add on with AASL 9I flights were permitted with AI .
a) Domestic Travel ( within India ) eg .DED -9I/x DEL- AI/BOM and vv.
b) Domestic- International -Domestic travel on AI-9I flights : eg : PGH-9I/x DEL-AI/JFK & vv .
However, post completion of filing, the above combinations will not be permitted on AI- 9I for all AI Fares including Published fares , Code share & Privates fares ( viz Concessionary, Seaman ,LTC fares etc ). This will be shortly followed by removing 9I flights from available connections also and subsequently post-cutover, 9I schedule will not be available on AI SITA system.
For Conjunction tickets issued on AI-9I & vv travel prior CUTOVER date, the existing conditions for Refund/baggage will be honoured .
We are already in the process of changing filing region-wise and the whole exercise is planned to be completed by 23 March 2022. It may have been observed that for some regions the updated filing are already in place, which will be extended on to entire network of Air India.
In other words, this would result in the following scenarios, as below,
Until now both End on end /Add on with AASL 9I flights were permitted with AI .
a) Domestic Travel ( within India ) eg .DED -9I/x DEL- AI/BOM and vv.
b) Domestic- International -Domestic travel on AI-9I flights : eg : PGH-9I/x DEL-AI/JFK & vv .
However, post completion of filing, the above combinations will not be permitted on AI- 9I for all AI Fares including Published fares , Code share & Privates fares ( viz Concessionary, Seaman ,LTC fares etc ). This will be shortly followed by removing 9I flights from available connections also and subsequently post-cutover, 9I schedule will not be available on AI SITA system.
For Conjunction tickets issued on AI-9I & vv travel prior CUTOVER date, the existing conditions for Refund/baggage will be honoured .
May 4, 2022, 12:09 pm
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So far not much action into merging AI and Vistara, if that was the plan. They dont even code share, I thought by now they would be code sharing at least.
Dont know why Tata is waiting, is there a clause which prohibits merging immediately on the sale agreement with GoI. AI can make some serious money (on connections with Vistara) on long haul international routes, especially since AI is overflying Russian airspace and can fly nonstop.
Dont know why Tata is waiting, is there a clause which prohibits merging immediately on the sale agreement with GoI. AI can make some serious money (on connections with Vistara) on long haul international routes, especially since AI is overflying Russian airspace and can fly nonstop.
May 4, 2022, 7:07 pm
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That said I'm sure they will at some point start code-sharing (contracts/agreements permitting) and optimizing international & domestic flights instead of being competitive as it is now.
May 5, 2022, 1:29 am
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So far not much action into merging AI and Vistara, if that was the plan. They dont even code share, I thought by now they would be code sharing at least.
Dont know why Tata is waiting, is there a clause which prohibits merging immediately on the sale agreement with GoI. AI can make some serious money (on connections with Vistara) on long haul international routes, especially since AI is overflying Russian airspace and can fly nonstop.
Dont know why Tata is waiting, is there a clause which prohibits merging immediately on the sale agreement with GoI. AI can make some serious money (on connections with Vistara) on long haul international routes, especially since AI is overflying Russian airspace and can fly nonstop.
At some point they will merge both airlines. For now they seem content to just let things be.
May 5, 2022, 3:21 am
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So far not much action into merging AI and Vistara, if that was the plan. They dont even code share, I thought by now they would be code sharing at least.
Dont know why Tata is waiting, is there a clause which prohibits merging immediately on the sale agreement with GoI. AI can make some serious money (on connections with Vistara) on long haul international routes, especially since AI is overflying Russian airspace and can fly nonstop.
Dont know why Tata is waiting, is there a clause which prohibits merging immediately on the sale agreement with GoI. AI can make some serious money (on connections with Vistara) on long haul international routes, especially since AI is overflying Russian airspace and can fly nonstop.
I am curious if we will see AI resources selectively picked for being moved over to UK at some point. Or maybe even the opposite.
May 5, 2022, 4:26 am
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No need for codesharing, all AI & UK need to do is allow for eithers flights to be allowed to be ticketed under their fare. How they split the revenue is up to them. You could then also allow each others flights to show up in the booking engines/websites/etc. But I suppose they are awaiting for the new management to be installed before making such bold moves.
May 9, 2022, 9:13 am
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No need for codesharing, all AI & UK need to do is allow for eithers flights to be allowed to be ticketed under their fare. How they split the revenue is up to them. You could then also allow each others flights to show up in the booking engines/websites/etc. But I suppose they are awaiting for the new management to be installed before making such bold moves.
I did not refer to revamping the UK code shares with foreign carriers, just code sharing between AI and UK only, which should be possible since they have one owner, pending GoI approvals, which generally should not be an issue in this case.
May 12, 2022, 5:10 am
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The current boss of Scoot is supposed to be the new boss of AI: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/91516098.cms
In other news the CXO of Spicejet is going to be someone at AI. I wonder who had that idea.
In other news the CXO of Spicejet is going to be someone at AI. I wonder who had that idea.
Jun 1, 2022, 3:28 pm
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Jun 15, 2022, 3:42 pm
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Air India just got the OK to merge AirAsia. It will be interesting to see whether AirAsia becomes a subsidiary or they do a more complicated merger.
https://www.indiatimes.com/worth/new...ia-572203.html
https://www.indiatimes.com/worth/new...ia-572203.html
Jun 15, 2022, 4:32 pm
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Air India just got the OK to merge AirAsia. It will be interesting to see whether AirAsia becomes a subsidiary or they do a more complicated merger.
https://www.indiatimes.com/worth/new...ia-572203.html
https://www.indiatimes.com/worth/new...ia-572203.html
Jun 15, 2022, 10:48 pm
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This is mysterious. Since the Tatas took over I have seen pooling of resources between UK and AI (gate staff). The software for flight updates and check in also seem to be common now as has the baggage tags. Even the frequent flyer program systems seem to have been put onto some kind of common software (both had outages 10 days ago at the same time while they upgraded the system). The e-mails for itinerary changes and flight updates are also literally identical.
It's probably coincidental they use the same PSS now. But again they should absolutely leverage efficiencies across.
Jun 16, 2022, 5:14 am
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This is mysterious. Since the Tatas took over I have seen pooling of resources between UK and AI (gate staff). The software for flight updates and check in also seem to be common now as has the baggage tags. Even the frequent flyer program systems seem to have been put onto some kind of common software (both had outages 10 days ago at the same time while they upgraded the system). The e-mails for itinerary changes and flight updates are also literally identical.
Jun 16, 2022, 9:48 am
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The maybe running separate instances of Amadeus. However they still will be able able to leverage IT, dev ops, tech support etc. across organizations. They would also be able to share custom code with each other saving huge amounts of time/effort. Plus of course to some degree centralizing general IT purchasing etc. for more leverage.....