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Old Dec 7, 2021, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
On 244 cr outstanding dues from Govt bodies to AI. I thought it was more. Who places all these interesting queries in the RS and LS?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88125712.cms
Yeah lets get the breakup of this. I think the PMO owes almost 50% of those dues!
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Old Dec 7, 2021, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Fred Reid, ex Delta and Virgin America, seems to be the designated CEO:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88113053.cms
He's also ex-Lufthansa.

Let's see how long he lasts this time. He used to also be with Taj Hotels back when he was fresh out of school -- that's when Indira Gandhi was PM. He majored in South Asian studies at Berkeley from 68-73 and then went straight to India. So from Tata to Tata. What a cute story for his career cap to perhaps end where it began.

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Old Dec 7, 2021, 6:37 am
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Holy cow, thats some kind of CV: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fred-reid-6437095/

That dude must be 75+?
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Old Dec 7, 2021, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Holy cow, thats some kind of CV: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fred-reid-6437095/

That dude must be 75+?
No, he's a bit younger than that. Closer to 70.
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Old Dec 13, 2021, 1:42 am
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The new owners are already refinancing the debt at half the rate AI used to pay: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88247078.cms
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Old Dec 13, 2021, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The new owners are already refinancing the debt at half the rate AI used to pay: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88247078.cms
The miracle of privatization that we have been waiting for so long has started. I hope Tatas turn it around and make a world class airline.
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Old Dec 15, 2021, 10:16 am
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Even absent the privatization, the airline would have been refinancing; and it likely would have come with lower financing costs too. And in this era where I'm being tossed personal offers for beaucoup bucks in unsecured personal loans at sub 6% rates on 3+ year loans, it doesn't take a whole lot for a legacy commercial enterprise to save some money by doing a refinancing. But this is Air India. And so if I were stuck with having to be a lender to an airline, I would rather lend to AI in the hands of Tata than in the hands of the Indian Government; and the lending terms would almost certainly end up reflecting that better lending risk profile of the company in the hands of Tata than in the hands of GoI.
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Old Dec 21, 2021, 2:09 am
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AI express to be merged with Air Asia India and keep the mixed fleet. Lovely, thats not how ULCC works guys...

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88401307.cms
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Old Dec 21, 2021, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
AI express to be merged with Air Asia India and keep the mixed fleet. Lovely, thats not how ULCC works guys...

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88401307.cms
Perhaps its part of the transition, and Tata needs some time before they feel they can pull of a streamlining of the fleet without a disruptive hit to the combined network.
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Old Dec 22, 2021, 2:10 am
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Most of AIE's fleet is leased so I'm guessing Tata will renegotiate/foreclose some of those agreements. I5's fleet on the other hand is about 50:50 and being Airbus A320s will integrate better with AI's fleet. From a strategy perspective it would appear to make the most sense to stick with AI's fleet division of Airbus narrowbodies and Boeing widebodies.
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Old Dec 30, 2021, 11:50 pm
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Crazy, the same lenders who only lent cash to AI at 9-10% are willing/bidding to lend Tatas the same at sovereign rates:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88555556.cms
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Old Dec 31, 2021, 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Crazy, the same lenders who only lent cash to AI at 9-10% are willing/bidding to lend Tatas the same at sovereign rates:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88555556.cms
The list of banks are the same that lent to Kingfisher et al. I reckon they have a direct line to the folks who print the money (they are Gov banks after all )
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Old Jan 1, 2022, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Crazy, the same lenders who only lent cash to AI at 9-10% are willing/bidding to lend Tatas the same at sovereign rates:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88555556.cms
One again shows the corrupt and inefficient govt. bureaucracy was what led to AI's downfall.
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Old Jan 7, 2022, 4:55 am
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Delhi HC has thrown out a case challenging the privatisation of AI: https://indianexpress.com/article/in...tment-7710644/
Barring SC intervention (unlikely), the handover should conclude this month.
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Old Jan 10, 2022, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Crazy, the same lenders who only lent cash to AI at 9-10% are willing/bidding to lend Tatas the same at sovereign rates:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/88555556.cms
For a 1-3 year loan period, AI under Tata is probably not at a very substantial risk of defaulting. As credit-worthy as the GoI in the same period? Well, when the lenders are ultimately back-stopped by state-owned banks, this really shouldn’t be a surprise, as they’ve done way crazier things before and some of that crazy continues.
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