Park Hyatt Melbourne REVIEW - MASTER THREAD
Jan 2, 2017, 11:23 am
#571
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
And with a train stop on the corner, none of those things really make a difference in the end.... lots of things to make you decide which of both to stay at, but for most the location wouldn't be the factor some of the reviews make it out to be...
Jan 2, 2017, 4:20 pm
#572
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
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You can have food in seconds outside the GH. There is nothing near the PH and you are required to walk the 10 min.
GH has a better location. It's not insanely better - but it is better.
GH wins:
Suites (size)
Gym
Locale
PH wins:
Breakfast
Club Lounge
Ties:
Internet speed
Pool
Jan 2, 2017, 4:26 pm
#573
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,527
Exactly. The reason the GH is better is not because it is 10 min away from PH but because it is 10 min closer to where most want to go. Places like Southbank are already 20 min away from the GH. That means 30 min away from PH.
You can have food in seconds outside the GH. There is nothing near the PH and you are required to walk the 10 min.
GH has a better location. It's not insanely better - but it is better.
GH wins:
Suites (size)
Gym
Locale
PH wins:
Breakfast
Club Lounge
Ties:
Internet speed
Pool
You can have food in seconds outside the GH. There is nothing near the PH and you are required to walk the 10 min.
GH has a better location. It's not insanely better - but it is better.
GH wins:
Suites (size)
Gym
Locale
PH wins:
Breakfast
Club Lounge
Ties:
Internet speed
Pool
There is no way that the pool experiences are tied. The GH is a cement, windowless block with the entire gym watching you. The gym is infinitely better but that's a given because it is a standalone gym within the same building.
The PH pool and wet areas are exceptional.
Jan 2, 2017, 11:26 pm
#574
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA PP, UA 1K/MM, WoH Globalist, HH Gold
Posts: 1,198
But you can't really disagree with the fact that the GH is more central. It's called Geography and it isn't debatable.
Jan 2, 2017, 11:33 pm
#575
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: AA PP, UA 1K/MM, WoH Globalist, HH Gold
Posts: 1,198
But yes, the gym at GH is great exactly because it is a regular gym with a wide range of equipment, classes, etc. and not your normal hotel gym.
Jan 3, 2017, 12:25 am
#576
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
So some objectivity in reviews is nice. For most leisure stays you will be either walking anyway or you will be taking public transportation. Hardly any difference then in my opinion.
Jan 3, 2017, 2:47 am
#577
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
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Yes, the PH does have a window to the outside... but the lap pool is surely not "infinitely" better.
Due to the window you can give the edge to the PH - I gave them a tie because to me both suck and I surely wouldn't stay at either hotel expecting a lovely pool to lounge about.
The PH does have a nice lounge area outside in the SPA courtyard however. Sadly it's not connected nor surrounds the pool
Jan 3, 2017, 2:55 am
#578
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,527
The PH has the same window to the gym and I watched "you" all day while working out in it.
Yes, the PH does have a window to the outside... but the lap pool is surely not "infinitely" better.
Due to the window you can give the edge to the PH - I gave them a tie because to me both suck and I surely wouldn't stay at either hotel expecting a lovely pool to lounge about.
The PH does have a nice lounge area outside in the SPA courtyard however. Sadly it's not connected nor surrounds the pool
Yes, the PH does have a window to the outside... but the lap pool is surely not "infinitely" better.
Due to the window you can give the edge to the PH - I gave them a tie because to me both suck and I surely wouldn't stay at either hotel expecting a lovely pool to lounge about.
The PH does have a nice lounge area outside in the SPA courtyard however. Sadly it's not connected nor surrounds the pool
with this
then your opinion in your reviews loses all credibility...
Jan 3, 2017, 4:56 am
#579
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,994
Location is a mininimal as a tiebreaker; the tramway "super" stops work far more efficiently for the PH and as mentioned the train is closer by if you need Spencer St or the docklands (I rarely do taxis/uber/etc.).
However I find the PH generally so far exceeds the GH in stays as a diamond in recogition and related value-add that I would not contemplate a GH stay over a PH stay unless the cost is at least $100 more.
The PH is simply a nicer place for us to stay.
However I find the PH generally so far exceeds the GH in stays as a diamond in recogition and related value-add that I would not contemplate a GH stay over a PH stay unless the cost is at least $100 more.
The PH is simply a nicer place for us to stay.
Jul 19, 2017, 10:57 pm
#580
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Gold Coast AUS
Programs: QF P1, VA Velocity, Etihad P, IHG SPE Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 36
Just stayed one night at PH Melbourne (straight after one night at GH Melbourne to compare) and although I got recognized as a Globalist and upgraded to a Club Spar deluxe (best available room as suites were sold out) I didn't think much of the property. Dated, tired, poorly decorated and embarrassingly wanted to charge me $8 for hot breakfast items I should have got for free as a Globalist (and did at GH the previous morning). Service was very mixed. The lounge was very poorly stocked (especially with hot food items).
A mediocre hotel at best that isn't really worthy of the PH brand.
A mediocre hotel at best that isn't really worthy of the PH brand.
Jul 20, 2017, 1:02 am
#581
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Strange - I've never been charged for full breakfast at the PH; yes, the lounge only has the one hot food item in the evenings, but the remainder of the spread is pretty good and varied.
I stay here about 20 nights a year. Service can vary, but that happens at any hotel and my experience at this hotel is that sub par service is rare.
I stay here about 20 nights a year. Service can vary, but that happens at any hotel and my experience at this hotel is that sub par service is rare.
Jul 20, 2017, 2:53 am
#582
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,527
Just stayed one night at PH Melbourne (straight after one night at GH Melbourne to compare) and although I got recognized as a Globalist and upgraded to a Club Spar deluxe (best available room as suites were sold out) I didn't think much of the property. Dated, tired, poorly decorated and embarrassingly wanted to charge me $8 for hot breakfast items I should have got for free as a Globalist (and did at GH the previous morning). Service was very mixed. The lounge was very poorly stocked (especially with hot food items).
A mediocre hotel at best that isn't really worthy of the PH brand.
A mediocre hotel at best that isn't really worthy of the PH brand.
Poorly decorated? There's over $1million worth of art in the hotel.
The $8 upcharge is bs and I have questioned it with Hyatt and they said the property can indeed charge it for a la carte items. The GH used to charge $22 for breakfast in the restaurant.
Jul 20, 2017, 7:10 am
#583
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 849
Weird. I was there in 2016, and I wasn't charged for hot breakfast. Did the server tell you this? Were you able to bring this up at check out to find out the official policy?
I thought the lounge was pretty good. The hotel is dated, and the service isn't up to PH standards, but I enjoyed my stay.
I thought the lounge was pretty good. The hotel is dated, and the service isn't up to PH standards, but I enjoyed my stay.
Jul 20, 2017, 7:31 pm
#584
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Gold Coast AUS
Programs: QF P1, VA Velocity, Etihad P, IHG SPE Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 36
Weird. I was there in 2016, and I wasn't charged for hot breakfast. Did the server tell you this? Were you able to bring this up at check out to find out the official policy?
I thought the lounge was pretty good. The hotel is dated, and the service isn't up to PH standards, but I enjoyed my stay.
I thought the lounge was pretty good. The hotel is dated, and the service isn't up to PH standards, but I enjoyed my stay.
Jul 20, 2017, 7:42 pm
#585
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 849
Very bizarre indeed. I wonder what changed. And $8? Such an odd amount to charge.
It's not even much so why even bother to have that charge? It's not like they do this to earn money. The breakfast wasn't even good to be honest. The service was pretty bad.
Do you think the $8 charge are for the people that booked rooms with club/lounge access that are not Globalists? So if they want to eat in downstairs, they have the option of paying $8? And for Globalists, the $8 shouldn't be charged? Maybe there is some type of miscommunication on who should get charged? I see on the hyatt site that anyone can book a room with club access.
It's not even much so why even bother to have that charge? It's not like they do this to earn money. The breakfast wasn't even good to be honest. The service was pretty bad.
Do you think the $8 charge are for the people that booked rooms with club/lounge access that are not Globalists? So if they want to eat in downstairs, they have the option of paying $8? And for Globalists, the $8 shouldn't be charged? Maybe there is some type of miscommunication on who should get charged? I see on the hyatt site that anyone can book a room with club access.