coleslaw

Apparently I’ve never even seen the “main FT pages” before.

DELee

Learn something new every day!

David

Prof_Dr_G

Since the airline and hotels have violated the trust of their best customers, I no longer make my decisions based on some reward structure. I can remember an old joke about an average year under communism - It is worse than last year and better than next. That is a good description of airline and hotel reward schemes. The companies are unethical in their marketing, and they will flim-flam you at first chance.

JackE

What unethical Hyatt practice are you referring to?

CIT85

You do whatever you want. No one is forcing you to participate in airline and hotel loyalty programs.
If you want to hurl accusations of unethical behavior, please share specifically what is unethical.

craz

for 1 I thought Hyatt said no changes in Cats, then they said there will be apx 1/2 dz going up and now its 2x taht.

As for airlines, recently looking to use UA mile sto FL, they wanted 29,500 r/t Saver, fare r/t was $98. So much for no award charts and dynamic pricing. Seems at least wihj UA, that there is no max they will charge with the amount of miles needed as the fare goes up, but for the downside its Fixed and Covid or nor Winter is peak season for FL so they want more miles even thou they want < $100 for the tkt

I agree with the poster you quoted!

CIT85

None of the examples you cited are unethical behavior.
If UA wants to charge 50K miles for $50 ticket, you'd be dumber than dirt to use miles.

craz

I disagree since in this case UA never said they would have a min amount needed but no max. Yet they said no more award charts as it will be dynamic pricing and left out that was onlky for the Upside and in fact they will impose a min on the downside = its not dynamic whatsoever. Now take JetBlue they hold each pt is worth x and as the fare increases or decreases the amount of pts needed will go or down = that same $98 fare that UA wants 29K for JetBlue has a 8400 pt value on it

True youd have to be nuts to use 29K instead of $98, I didnt do either but purchased a $98 fare on AA instead,(Jet Blues times didnt work for me on 1 trip)., other then that 1 trip my JB trips have all been <10K R/T.

So IMO its unethical on UAs part to have said that they doing away with award charts an dgoing to dynamic pricing when in fact they didnt mean that in the full sense whatsoever and only when a fare would increase

janehoya

Hi, we are booked for the Mar Monte Santa Barbara from Thursday, October 21 to Monday, October 25 at 15,000 per night. Now it has been bumped up to a Category 5 hotel. If I remove one night (staying 4 nights instead of 5) will it reprice to 80,000 for the four night stay versus the 75,000 for the current 5 night stay?

I have searched Hyatt.com and the web and cannot any information at all. Thank you.

Matt4200

A) I would first wait until August to make any changes as the Peak/Off Peak pricing will begin mid-July. October could be Off Peak which would lessen the impact of changes.

B) At this point it is no longer possible to remove a night otherwise it will be repriced.

There may also be a points rebate, rollover promo or double nights promo announced by then which would also lessen keeping the 5th night. You could leave after the 4th night and still get the credit for the 5th along with bonuses for any applicable promos.

I know it’s not what you wanna hear, but it is what it is gotta make the best of it.

craigthemif

Yes, it will reprice.

This is why you should book award nights one-by-one when your plans aren't completely firm.

Matt4200

Best case scenario at this point is that it’s marked as Off Peak.

Even then it’d be 68k points vs. the 75k already paid. A difference of only 7k points. While that’s not nothing, with the looming possibility of Q3/Q4 promos it may be best to just let it be.

Tough to hear, I know, but gotta make the best of a bad situation.

abcx

Would a change in stay dates for a stay booked at a hotel going up in category but before the category increase reprice upwards? I have a bad feeling it does but we have to change due to a medical emergency. Does the hotel have discretion in this case to just move the stay dates or does WoH have to get involved?

Matt4200

All changes have already been made in categories for 2021. So any changes even if it’s for the same length of stay would result in a reprice no matter the reason.

There’s literally nothing the hotel or WoH could do to move the stay to different dates and keep the previous points pricing AFAIK.

59Impala

unfortunately not.
Hyatt says any reservation affected by a lower category would get a refund. Any reservation going up would not be reflected. A change in dates however would be repriced.