Double points promo (15Nov-31Dec 17)
#76
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This. I would imagine that a good deal of corporate business flows through Concur or other services. If one chain decided not to award points, promo or not, to Concur travelers and another chain did, I would imagine business travel through these booking engines would decline drastically. Everyone I know who works for a Fortune 500 company goes through one of these portals and I doubt any customer service business would want to turn down those customers, with a booking fee or not.
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Yup. And unlike MarkOK, my company is using the travel system “as intended” and does not allow us to book on other sites. A booking made outside the travel system will simply not be reimbursed. And it has never been a problem for points, status credit or benefits. Until now. (I personally don’t travel much on business and don’t expect any business travel during this period)
Anyways, you are still getting 'points' and 'status credit'. You just aren't getting the bonus on a promo targeted for travel booked though the cheapest means to Hyatt possible. I don't see anything more or less 'distasteful' about this than the promos that get targeted directly to corporate travelers (which I am excluded from, whether I travel for work or pleasure. I don't have a 'corporate' discount code, a 'corporate' email needed for the promos, or anything like that). You win some, you lose some.
#78
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Your 'takes' are amazingly insufferable.
You are admittedlty new to FT and the points game.
You don't even have Hyatt top tier yet you profess that it's too easy to achieve.
You have no concept of Concur and similar corporate travel portals, or that their use is mandatory for a high percentage of business travelers.
You seem to be of the opinion that your travel experiences are the norm or the reference, and that others are outliers. Take a breath. Read more.
You are admittedlty new to FT and the points game.
You don't even have Hyatt top tier yet you profess that it's too easy to achieve.
You have no concept of Concur and similar corporate travel portals, or that their use is mandatory for a high percentage of business travelers.
You seem to be of the opinion that your travel experiences are the norm or the reference, and that others are outliers. Take a breath. Read more.
#79
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Your 'takes' are amazingly insufferable.
You are admittedly ty new to FT and the points game.
You don't even have Hyatt top tier yet you profess that it's too easy to achieve.
You have no concept of Concur and similar corporate travel portals, or that their use is mandatory for a high percentage of business travelers.
You seem to be of the opinion that your travel experiences are the norm or the reference, and that others are outliers. Take a breath. Read more.
You are admittedly ty new to FT and the points game.
You don't even have Hyatt top tier yet you profess that it's too easy to achieve.
You have no concept of Concur and similar corporate travel portals, or that their use is mandatory for a high percentage of business travelers.
You seem to be of the opinion that your travel experiences are the norm or the reference, and that others are outliers. Take a breath. Read more.
#80
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Yeah, and your company is probably a sucker for overpaying vendors in other areas too I bet.
Anyways, you are still getting 'points' and 'status credit'. You just aren't getting the bonus on a promo targeted for travel booked though the cheapest means to Hyatt possible. I don't see anything more or less 'distasteful' about this than the promos that get targeted directly to corporate travelers (which I am excluded from, whether I travel for work or pleasure. I don't have a 'corporate' discount code, a 'corporate' email needed for the promos, or anything like that). You win some, you lose some.
Anyways, you are still getting 'points' and 'status credit'. You just aren't getting the bonus on a promo targeted for travel booked though the cheapest means to Hyatt possible. I don't see anything more or less 'distasteful' about this than the promos that get targeted directly to corporate travelers (which I am excluded from, whether I travel for work or pleasure. I don't have a 'corporate' discount code, a 'corporate' email needed for the promos, or anything like that). You win some, you lose some.
#81
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Your 'takes' are amazingly insufferable.
You are admittedlty new to FT and the points game.
You don't even have Hyatt top tier yet you profess that it's too easy to achieve.
You have no concept of Concur and similar corporate travel portals, or that their use is mandatory for a high percentage of business travelers.
You seem to be of the opinion that your travel experiences are the norm or the reference, and that others are outliers. Take a breath. Read more.
You are admittedlty new to FT and the points game.
You don't even have Hyatt top tier yet you profess that it's too easy to achieve.
You have no concept of Concur and similar corporate travel portals, or that their use is mandatory for a high percentage of business travelers.
You seem to be of the opinion that your travel experiences are the norm or the reference, and that others are outliers. Take a breath. Read more.
And no, my take is not that Hyatt top tier is easy, my take is that getting top tier should NOT be easy, at least it shouldn't be easy if the benefits are lucrative. The funny thing about this game, is that most people here seem to accept mid-tier status with airline programs for what it is, but the attitude about hotels is that either it's top or nothing. I will 'earn' globalist lite in about three weeks and finish the year at 40sh nights. I think that is great, I only really see the positive in that. It will make my 70 or so nights worth of stays more cost-effective and more comfortable. If there wasn't the CC promo, I would end the year at Explorists, and so what, -- I would try to make good use of those club certificates and still enjoy traveling to new locations. Similarly, I will get 15,000 extra bonus points from this promo. That is like a gift of $300+ off a future booking that I can't feel negative about. If I was excluded because they decided to target it differently, then I can have sour grapes about it but ultimately it isn't like Hyatt owes me a promo just because they did a promo last year.
As for Concur, I know that certain businesses require Concur for business travel. I can't do anything about that. But Hyatt doesn't 'owe' corporate bookings the same promos that they offer others, just like Hyatt doesn't owe 'me' the same promos they offer their targetted corporate customers. We can and should question their decisions, but my take is that we need to check our own entitlement more often. A good chunk of Hyatt customers day in and day out aren't getting free breakfasts, room upgrades, -or even any points (Because they aren't even members)-. It is a privilege to be recognized as a frequent traveler with special treatment. If you are used to having the benefits for two decades, you can feel cheated if that changes, but as a 'newer' person to this who have for years only really gotten what I've paid for (and over time, I've paid for a lot of breakfasts, suites, etc), I find it a little nauseating to see the entitlement. (again, tongue in cheek, I really do find it oddly enjoyable to see us complain why both juice and coffee isn't given at our free breakfast when we are obviously entitled to our juice!!). The truth of the matter is that Hyatt in 2017 isn't competing with Hyatt in 2016. Complaining that the promos today aren't as good as the promos yesterday, or that getting status is harder today than it was yesterday, or that the promo isn't as good as we want it to be just because we want more, really is just bellyaching. Conversely, what we CAN do is complain that a promo that Hyatt is running now isn't as good as the promo that Marriot is running, or that WoH benefits today aren't as good as Marriot's benefits today -- those are the comparisons that we actually can use to shift our business around, yet those are the discussions that are less common. As much as we want to stomp our feet and think Hyatt is tanking because we don't think we are getting what we think we are owed in the forms of promos or easier status, the truth is we don't matter all that much to the bottom line and Hyatt is still doing just fine.
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I really do find it oddly enjoyable to see us complain why both juice and coffee isn't given at our free breakfast when we are obviously entitled to our juice!!).
Conversely, what we CAN do is complain that a promo that Hyatt is running now isn't as good as the promo that Marriot is running, or that WoH benefits today aren't as good as Marriot's benefits today -- those are the comparisons that we actually can use to shift our business around, yet those are the discussions that are less common.
Back to the topic of this thread, the current Double Points promo is fairly lame (compared to past Hyatt promos). I have no idea how it compares to other chains, mainly because it's to late in the year to switch. My travel for the year is already set in stone. I'm much more interested in early 2018 promos.
#83
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Back to the topic of this thread, the current Double Points promo is fairly lame (compared to past Hyatt promos). I have no idea how it compares to other chains, mainly because it's to late in the year to switch. My travel for the year is already set in stone. I'm much more interested in early 2018 promos.
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What will happen next year under the new WoH managment is anyone's guess.
#85
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Annoyed
Just annoyed on this promo. Hotel I’m staying at over the holidays has pulled all inventory out of the hyatt system— only way to book (for $1000/night) is direct thru the hotel. Tried to ask globalist team for a manual update/exception on this and was told no ability.
So...zero ability to book as asked; zero initiative from hyatt to make it work...hard to stay loyal.
Loyalty runs two ways...
So...zero ability to book as asked; zero initiative from hyatt to make it work...hard to stay loyal.
Loyalty runs two ways...
#86
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I feel like I was a bit heavy-handed last night in my response to MarkOK and want to apologize.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and all of yours.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and all of yours.
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Just completed a spendy stay at the GH Kauai. Was booked a while back...points just posted, but not the double points. Anyone know how long it takes for the double points to post?
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