World of Hyatt [Pre-Launch]
#421
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: BNA
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Bonvoy Plat, HHonors Diamond, DL Gold
Posts: 383
Parking benefits are another weak spot of WoH. Globalists will get complimentary parking on free night awards at participating Hyatt hotels and resorts with parking that can be charged to the guest's room. Unfortunately, Globalists will have to pay Hyatt for parking on all other occasions. Explorist, Discoverist, and Members don't appear to have any parking benefits.
In contrast to Hyatt, Mlife offers the following parking benefits:
Self-parking is complimentary for Pearl, Gold, Platinum and NOIR Mlife Rewards Members.
Valet-parking is complimentary for Gold, Platinum and NOIR M life Rewards Members.
Considering that Hyatt matches status to several Mlife levels, it would be nice to see similar parking benefits at Hyatt hotels.
In contrast to Hyatt, Mlife offers the following parking benefits:
Self-parking is complimentary for Pearl, Gold, Platinum and NOIR Mlife Rewards Members.
Valet-parking is complimentary for Gold, Platinum and NOIR M life Rewards Members.
Considering that Hyatt matches status to several Mlife levels, it would be nice to see similar parking benefits at Hyatt hotels.
#422
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,546
yeah sure, free ~$50 day parking for the 20% of weekday guests at center city properties is totally reasonable
#423
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,576
For you smug to be globalists out there... don't think all properties will always honor the new "upgrade to suite subject to availability at checkin" supposed perk.
Say you checkin Monday for checkout Wednesday. Suite is unsold for Monday night. But is sold for Tuesday night. You will NOT get the suite (so I found out how this works).
It's a fake perk.
Even if the suite is unsold for Tuesday night, the hotel could say "this is a period of current high occupancy, we EXPECT the suite to be sold hence cannot upgrade you."
Say you checkin Monday for checkout Wednesday. Suite is unsold for Monday night. But is sold for Tuesday night. You will NOT get the suite (so I found out how this works).
It's a fake perk.
Even if the suite is unsold for Tuesday night, the hotel could say "this is a period of current high occupancy, we EXPECT the suite to be sold hence cannot upgrade you."
#424
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: York, PA
Programs: MRSPG LT Tit, HH Diamond, Hertz Pres.
Posts: 1,737
So, an ex road warrior. In the past, carried HH-Diamond, SPG-Plt, and HGP-Diamond, all based on stays. I never spent more than 2 nights in a property unless it was a vacation or a business meeting. MANY times I went out of my way to stay where I needed to for the status or the promo.
With all the devals in the past, I dropped HH-D, kept gold by AMEX. I will have LT-SPG-plt in 2017. I had chosen SPG as my longterm lifetime status since I found it easy to get.
HGP was my favorite. I have spent many nights in HP and HH. I also have spent many nights driving 30 minutes to get to the only HGP property. My business, my spend. I am 5 nights from diamond (or whatever) requal for next year.
I found the changes to DSU last year to be devious and underhanded. You have truly gutted what was the premier program. Who cares who won Freddies, when I was on vacation and needed or wanted to relax, it was ALWAYS Hyatt. These changes are useless.
I will miss it. We will take our typical Christmas DC trip. I will use my DSU for this year. I will burn points in 2017, hard. I am already dreading the Marriott changes they will shove down our throat.
With all the devals in the past, I dropped HH-D, kept gold by AMEX. I will have LT-SPG-plt in 2017. I had chosen SPG as my longterm lifetime status since I found it easy to get.
HGP was my favorite. I have spent many nights in HP and HH. I also have spent many nights driving 30 minutes to get to the only HGP property. My business, my spend. I am 5 nights from diamond (or whatever) requal for next year.
I found the changes to DSU last year to be devious and underhanded. You have truly gutted what was the premier program. Who cares who won Freddies, when I was on vacation and needed or wanted to relax, it was ALWAYS Hyatt. These changes are useless.
I will miss it. We will take our typical Christmas DC trip. I will use my DSU for this year. I will burn points in 2017, hard. I am already dreading the Marriott changes they will shove down our throat.
#425
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Parking benefits are another weak spot of WoH. Globalists will get complimentary parking on free night awards at participating Hyatt hotels and resorts with parking that can be charged to the guest's room. Unfortunately, Globalists will have to pay Hyatt for parking on all other occasions. Explorist, Discoverist, and Members don't appear to have any parking benefits.
In contrast to Hyatt, Mlife offers the following parking benefits:
Self-parking is complimentary for Pearl, Gold, Platinum and NOIR Mlife Rewards Members.
Valet-parking is complimentary for Gold, Platinum and NOIR M life Rewards Members.
Considering that Hyatt matches status to several Mlife levels, it would be nice to see similar parking benefits at Hyatt hotels.
In contrast to Hyatt, Mlife offers the following parking benefits:
Self-parking is complimentary for Pearl, Gold, Platinum and NOIR Mlife Rewards Members.
Valet-parking is complimentary for Gold, Platinum and NOIR M life Rewards Members.
Considering that Hyatt matches status to several Mlife levels, it would be nice to see similar parking benefits at Hyatt hotels.
Same with resort fees.
#426
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 20,439
"Why doesn’t World of Hyatt offer a welcome amenity for Globalists?
Based on feedback from guests, World of Hyatt focuses on benefits that are most valued, including room upgrades and free nights."
That's a bunch of malarkey
Definitely have to revisit my relationship with SPG/Marriott as I already have SPG LT Plat status.
Based on feedback from guests, World of Hyatt focuses on benefits that are most valued, including room upgrades and free nights."
That's a bunch of malarkey
Definitely have to revisit my relationship with SPG/Marriott as I already have SPG LT Plat status.
#427
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,140
Of course the suite has to be available for the entire stay. How could you expect otherwise? I suspect it will work the same as it does for SPG Platinums, and that's worked quite well for me for years.
#428
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,140
I really hate when businesses make up stupid words. Explorer and Discoverer are real words and don't sound so dumb, although I still wouldn't use Discoverer. As far as Globalist, well that's even worse considering it's real meaning. Not that being a Globalist is bad, just that you shouldn't take already existing words and try to change their meaning.
#429
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BOS
Programs: Marriott LTG, HHonors Diamond, Nat'l Exec
Posts: 3,581
Hyatt being the only major chain to still not count reward nights toward status doesn't help this any, either. And there's still no status incentive for anyone who actually stays in the hotel to have the credit card -- it just gives me status I would already get through stays.
I can live with either a limited network of hotels, /or/ a high stay requirement for status qualification, but not both.
I'm on the fence about qualifying for Globalist for 2017 -- Diamond was going to require a stretch for me anyway, as my travels have taken me to a lot of Hyatt-free areas this year.
Unless Marriott and SPG's combined program is significantly devalued, though, I'm facing a world where (given credit card spend) I can more easily reach top tier in both Hilton and Marriott's programs than in just Hyatt's. And that's going to be hard for me to justify.
#430
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,992
For you smug to be globalists out there... don't think all properties will always honor the new "upgrade to suite subject to availability at checkin" supposed perk.
Say you checkin Monday for checkout Wednesday. Suite is unsold for Monday night. But is sold for Tuesday night. You will NOT get the suite (so I found out how this works).
It's a fake perk.
Even if the suite is unsold for Tuesday night, the hotel could say "this is a period of current high occupancy, we EXPECT the suite to be sold hence cannot upgrade you."
Say you checkin Monday for checkout Wednesday. Suite is unsold for Monday night. But is sold for Tuesday night. You will NOT get the suite (so I found out how this works).
It's a fake perk.
Even if the suite is unsold for Tuesday night, the hotel could say "this is a period of current high occupancy, we EXPECT the suite to be sold hence cannot upgrade you."
Oh I have no illusions regarding suites having been Diamond for many years. There are properties out there like Maui and the HR on Oahu who don't give a $#$% who you are when it comes to upgrades. I have had Maui Andaz just disregard a long standing standing reservation for a suite upgrade! It took me going online and cancelling six business trip reservations to straighten it out !!
So I don't think there is a reader here that buys into that.
What about the people that bought into the promise of PLT status with the CC?
#431
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: EWR
Programs: AA Exec Plat, United MM Gold, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Platinum, Packer Owner
Posts: 262
#432
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Monte Sereno, California
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, 2 mm, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,398
I actually prefer Marriott. I plan many of my own events.. you ask Marriott to jump, they ask how high... Hyatt, how much can you pay. At Marriott I know all the sales personnel in the SF and NYC area by first name, at Hyatt, staff changes more often that I change my underwear.
Marriott is worth 75 nights a year for elite status, much larger foot print, better locations. Hyatt is not worth 60 nights, poor foot print in Europe, Africa, South America, Australia, Latin America and in many parts of North America.
For someone who plans events, blocks 40 - 100+ rooms for events, Marriott has taken good care of me.... Hyatt is hit and miss.
Marriott is worth 75 nights a year for elite status, much larger foot print, better locations. Hyatt is not worth 60 nights, poor foot print in Europe, Africa, South America, Australia, Latin America and in many parts of North America.
For someone who plans events, blocks 40 - 100+ rooms for events, Marriott has taken good care of me.... Hyatt is hit and miss.
#433
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,576
"Why doesn’t World of Hyatt offer a welcome amenity for Globalists?
Based on feedback from guests, World of Hyatt focuses on benefits that are most valued, including room upgrades and free nights."
I have never met a Diamond who doesn't think the 1,000 points as welcome amenity to be "not of value".
Stop thinking that your customers would buy in to your spin, Jeff Zidell. This is just insulting.
Based on feedback from guests, World of Hyatt focuses on benefits that are most valued, including room upgrades and free nights."
I have never met a Diamond who doesn't think the 1,000 points as welcome amenity to be "not of value".
Stop thinking that your customers would buy in to your spin, Jeff Zidell. This is just insulting.
#434
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
To be fair to Hyatt, not that they deserve it now, they didn't say guests don't welcome that amenity. They said they are focused on specific ones they allege guests want the most.
#435
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Marriott PLT, SPG PLT, AA EXP, Virgin Elevate
Posts: 293
What's with all the negativity, I'm so excited about this new "Word of Hyatt" program... it's everything I wanted!!!
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