Jan 8, 2018, 7:30 am
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FAQ
Yes, Points + Points and Points + Miles earnings are going away, it's replaced with status-based bonuses. Base and silver member earnings winds up worse off. Gold earning wind up a teeny tiny better off. Diamond earning remains unchanged.
Only nights roll over to help with qualification in the following year, not stays or points.
FAQ
Yes, Points + Points and Points + Miles earnings are going away, it's replaced with status-based bonuses. Base and silver member earnings winds up worse off. Gold earning wind up a teeny tiny better off. Diamond earning remains unchanged.
Only nights roll over to help with qualification in the following year, not stays or points.
Even More New Hilton Honors Benefits in 2018
Jan 8, 2018, 6:10 pm
#61
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952
Hi all,
In addition to the Waldorf Astoria breakfast updates we shared before the New Year, wanted to let you know about a few other Hilton Honors benefits that will be making their debut in 2018. Starting in April, we’re excited to announce that we will be offering the highest elite point earning potential in the industry, along with a handful of other benefits that will ensure every one of your stays count. More details below:
Easier Way to Earn More Points
Beginning April 2018, all members will continue to earn Points the way they always have, while enjoying new elite tier bonus rates for Silver (20 percent), Gold (80 percent) and Diamond (100 percent) members.
Milestone Bonuses (Unlimited!)
Hilton Honors members will earn 10,000 Bonus Points on every tenth night, once they reach at least 40 nights in a calendar year. The more you stay, the more you earn. And there’s no cap. Diamond members will also receive an additional bonus at 60 nights in one year - a 30,000 Bonus Points reward.
Elite Rollover Nights
Starting this year, Silver, Gold and Diamond members can rollover qualifying nights earned beyond their current elite tier requirements to count towards their elite tier status the following year. It’s time to make every stay count!
Gifting Elite Status
The gift that keeps on giving. Members who stay 60 or more nights in a calendar year will also have the ability to gift Gold status to their favorite travel partner. Stay 100+ nights and that gift gets upgraded to Diamond.
Thought it would be helpful to have a visual, so check out the chart below showing the new earning by tier and Milestone Bonuses. (Earn rates shown per $1 spent for Silver, Gold, and Diamond members include Base Points and Elite Tier Bonus; along with Milestone Bonuses, which are based on nights stayed per calendar year.) You can find more information here too, as well as the FAQ.
Happy to take questions and thanks for all your feedback in advance!
Thank you!
Lauren
In addition to the Waldorf Astoria breakfast updates we shared before the New Year, wanted to let you know about a few other Hilton Honors benefits that will be making their debut in 2018. Starting in April, we’re excited to announce that we will be offering the highest elite point earning potential in the industry, along with a handful of other benefits that will ensure every one of your stays count. More details below:
Easier Way to Earn More Points
Beginning April 2018, all members will continue to earn Points the way they always have, while enjoying new elite tier bonus rates for Silver (20 percent), Gold (80 percent) and Diamond (100 percent) members.
Milestone Bonuses (Unlimited!)
Hilton Honors members will earn 10,000 Bonus Points on every tenth night, once they reach at least 40 nights in a calendar year. The more you stay, the more you earn. And there’s no cap. Diamond members will also receive an additional bonus at 60 nights in one year - a 30,000 Bonus Points reward.
Elite Rollover Nights
Starting this year, Silver, Gold and Diamond members can rollover qualifying nights earned beyond their current elite tier requirements to count towards their elite tier status the following year. It’s time to make every stay count!
Gifting Elite Status
The gift that keeps on giving. Members who stay 60 or more nights in a calendar year will also have the ability to gift Gold status to their favorite travel partner. Stay 100+ nights and that gift gets upgraded to Diamond.
Thought it would be helpful to have a visual, so check out the chart below showing the new earning by tier and Milestone Bonuses. (Earn rates shown per $1 spent for Silver, Gold, and Diamond members include Base Points and Elite Tier Bonus; along with Milestone Bonuses, which are based on nights stayed per calendar year.) You can find more information here too, as well as the FAQ.
Happy to take questions and thanks for all your feedback in advance!
Thank you!
Lauren
shame, shame.
Jan 8, 2018, 6:34 pm
#62
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: LAS ORD
Programs: AA Pro (mostly B6) OZ♦ (flying BR/UA), BA Silver Hyatt LT, Wynn Black, Cosmo Plat, Mlife Noir
Posts: 5,992
They want these cards in users hands as fast as possible for multiple reasons. People shelling out that kind of AF will expect big things an they want to deliver keeps PR strong. Also, you want people using them right?
I have had to replace my Surpass once from damage and had it next day. My CSR came in 24 hours
I have had to replace my Surpass once from damage and had it next day. My CSR came in 24 hours
My CSR was overnighted without being requested.
Jan 8, 2018, 6:36 pm
#63
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 575
Are there details on how rollover works?
Year 1 Stay 70 nights, 10 rollover
Year 2, stay 75 nights + 10 rollover = 85. Does that mean 25 roll over to year 3?
For purposes of lifetime, do rollover nights count both the year they are made plus the year they roll into? (like how marriott does it?) in the above example, would someone earn 145 lifetime nights (70+75), 155 (70+75+10, or 180 (70+75+10+25)
Year 1 Stay 70 nights, 10 rollover
Year 2, stay 75 nights + 10 rollover = 85. Does that mean 25 roll over to year 3?
For purposes of lifetime, do rollover nights count both the year they are made plus the year they roll into? (like how marriott does it?) in the above example, would someone earn 145 lifetime nights (70+75), 155 (70+75+10, or 180 (70+75+10+25)
Jan 8, 2018, 6:39 pm
#64
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: I'm From Here
Programs: AC*SE & MM/*Wood Gold/HHonors Diamond/Marriott Silver/AirMiles Gold
Posts: 4,567
With Points & Miles dead and me being forced to collect Points and Points now, as a Diamond with 30-40 stays p.a. but usually less than 60 nights, I am part of that group that actually lose out here. Shame, as I had a good steady influx of Avios via Hilton, especially through promos as the current one with Iberia.
I would say it is a total wash for me. Would be nice if stays carried over too but what can you do.
Jan 8, 2018, 6:55 pm
#65
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
Posts: 10,003
So if it is getting close to December and a person has got 59 nights, a decision would have to be made about whether it would be better to push for Diamond or stay at Gold and have a big head start towards requalification next year. If many people decide to stand pat and send their last stay or two of the year to a different chain, then Hilton might need to look at letting us choose whether 60 nights means Diamond or Gold + 20 rollover nights.
Jan 8, 2018, 7:02 pm
#66
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MID
Programs: Delta Skymiles Lifetime Silver, Delta MM, Lifetime Marriott Plat, Lifetime Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 366
Just for clarification on the rollover, there are years where I’ll have 180+ nights. So if I have 180 nights in year 1 but 0 nights in year 2 will I carryover 120 nights into year 3? And then if I stay 0 nights in year 3 will I carryover 60 nights into year 4 and still be Diamond?
Jan 8, 2018, 8:23 pm
#67
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PEK, AUS, WAS, HKG
Programs: CX Gold
Posts: 1,123
Are there details on how rollover works?
Year 1 Stay 70 nights, 10 rollover
Year 2, stay 75 nights + 10 rollover = 85. Does that mean 25 roll over to year 3?
For purposes of lifetime, do rollover nights count both the year they are made plus the year they roll into? (like how marriott does it?) in the above example, would someone earn 145 lifetime nights (70+75), 155 (70+75+10, or 180 (70+75+10+25)
Year 1 Stay 70 nights, 10 rollover
Year 2, stay 75 nights + 10 rollover = 85. Does that mean 25 roll over to year 3?
For purposes of lifetime, do rollover nights count both the year they are made plus the year they roll into? (like how marriott does it?) in the above example, would someone earn 145 lifetime nights (70+75), 155 (70+75+10, or 180 (70+75+10+25)
Jan 8, 2018, 8:29 pm
#68
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA USA
Programs: UA 1KMM, Bonvoy LTE+A, HH D, Nat'l EE, Hertz Plat, Avis PC
Posts: 3,713
Where I've been disappointed in the "diamond force" is in how frequently it's not available when I need it. With Marriott, for example, the platinum guarantee is available at any sold-out hotel (with very, very few exceptions). HHonors hotels seem to be able to get out of the benefit by claiming they are oversold by a very small percentage.
Jan 9, 2018, 1:11 am
#71
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Location: London
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Jan 9, 2018, 3:02 am
#72
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Newcastle, UK
Posts: 2,379
As Raffles states, it won't make any difference as these new rules refer to nights and not individual stays. Example: a 6 night stay booked as 6 one night stays is still one stay and 6 nights.
Jan 9, 2018, 3:13 am
#73
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Newcastle, UK
Posts: 2,379
These have now been modified and incorporated into the new features. HonorsRepresentative's original post states: new elite tier bonus rates for Silver (20 percent), Gold (80 percent) and Diamond (100 percent) members. What Lauren doesn't mention is that these rates also incorporate Points + Points and only really benefits Gold and Diamond members. Points + Miles will finish and one of Honors main features, "Double Dipping" is therefore finishing. Personally, I rarely used Points + Miles, much preferring Points + Points, so this change has no effect on my points earning.
Jan 9, 2018, 3:37 am
#74
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Location: Newcastle, UK
Posts: 2,379
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Jan 9, 2018, 3:38 am
#75
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,221
These have now been modified and incorporated into the new features. HonorsRepresentative's original post states: new elite tier bonus rates for Silver (20 percent), Gold (80 percent) and Diamond (100 percent) members. What Lauren doesn't mention is that these rates also incorporate Points + Points and only really benefits Gold and Diamond members. Points + Miles will finish and one of Honors main features, "Double Dipping" is therefore finishing. Personally, I rarely used Points + Miles, much preferring Points + Points, so this change has no effect on my points earning.