Hilton Garden Inn Hong Kong Mongkok {HKG}
Oct 8, 2016, 1:15 am
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Hahaha, sounds like you haven't seen much of HKG, or you are not a fan of this fantastic destination. You could go 5 nights per year and still be finding "things to do" 10 years on.
Oct 8, 2016, 3:56 am
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I can't comment about these 2 properties points vs cash wise, but if the rates at the hgi are that low at 600hkd/n, the hgi would be a no brainer imo.
If you're talking about cash vs cash, the conrad is easily 3 or 4x the price of the hgi.
If you have the points to spare, then by all means save the few hundred dollars and stay at the conrad. However it would be more wise to spend it on exotic destinations such as the conrad koh samui or Maldives where the rates are substantially higher.
Of course if you have lots of points to spare, and you're looking for luxury, the conrad will tick all your boxes. However, if you're not too picky, the hgi will do just fine. It's a new property and even has a rooftop pool.
Public transport is good in HK, so it shouldn't be much of a problem in both the conrad or hgi.
There's so much to eat in Hong Kong that you won't be needing the lounge that much either
If you're talking about cash vs cash, the conrad is easily 3 or 4x the price of the hgi.
If you have the points to spare, then by all means save the few hundred dollars and stay at the conrad. However it would be more wise to spend it on exotic destinations such as the conrad koh samui or Maldives where the rates are substantially higher.
Of course if you have lots of points to spare, and you're looking for luxury, the conrad will tick all your boxes. However, if you're not too picky, the hgi will do just fine. It's a new property and even has a rooftop pool.
Public transport is good in HK, so it shouldn't be much of a problem in both the conrad or hgi.
There's so much to eat in Hong Kong that you won't be needing the lounge that much either
Since the topic of Macau is also on the OP's mind, one of those times I have gotten a five star for cheap was at the Conrad Macao (which was quite reasonable as a 2 day C&P stay- THAT knocks it into a price I am comfortable paying). I enjoyed the experience and think Macau is interesting enough to visit, but I also wouldn't do it as a day trip from Hong Kong. The times I've gone have been when I've had itineraries where I've gone elsewhere in SE Asia, and HKG is the stopover point I'm returning to for a day or two, at which point a stay in Macao isn't all that much worse than schlepping into Hong Kong, and I'm going to have to do entrance rituals anyway...
Oct 8, 2016, 12:59 pm
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Hi,
My wife and I (age - 30s) are planning a vacation to South-East Asia (Singapore & HKG), which will be our first time there. The HKG trip will be for 5 nights towards the end of March 2017. I'm a Hilton Diamond member and wanted to use my HHonnors points.
I'm tempted between Hilton Conrad HKG (80K x 4= 320K points, 5th night free) or the new Hilton Garden Inn Kowloon (27K x 5 = 135K points, for some reason 5th night isn't free!?). If I go with the HGI Kowloon, I can use the saved points for my prior trip to Singapore (or else will have to book and pay regularly).
As I said, I've never been to HKG and I'm not familiar with the areas and city. For the most, we will be spending our time visiting tourist areas, and also include Macau (same-day trip).
I know part of it is based on personal preferences, but what would you recommend? Is it worth spending extra points and book HKG Conrad, vs saving points and booking HGI Kowloon? Is transportation/location an issue?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
My wife and I (age - 30s) are planning a vacation to South-East Asia (Singapore & HKG), which will be our first time there. The HKG trip will be for 5 nights towards the end of March 2017. I'm a Hilton Diamond member and wanted to use my HHonnors points.
I'm tempted between Hilton Conrad HKG (80K x 4= 320K points, 5th night free) or the new Hilton Garden Inn Kowloon (27K x 5 = 135K points, for some reason 5th night isn't free!?). If I go with the HGI Kowloon, I can use the saved points for my prior trip to Singapore (or else will have to book and pay regularly).
As I said, I've never been to HKG and I'm not familiar with the areas and city. For the most, we will be spending our time visiting tourist areas, and also include Macau (same-day trip).
I know part of it is based on personal preferences, but what would you recommend? Is it worth spending extra points and book HKG Conrad, vs saving points and booking HGI Kowloon? Is transportation/location an issue?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
We are staying at the Conrad in Singapore and the DT in Beijing so it doesn't make much difference with the luxury issue but if it is closer to transportation and sightseeing at the Conrad I'll probably book it.
Appreciate any ideas, Thanks
Oct 8, 2016, 1:17 pm
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I have a similar situation 1st time in Asia, except we are going for 3 days in May but not doing Macau-- I have plenty of points to use if I want to stay upscale but don't know if it is worth it. My wife has Diamond but it doesn't appear she will keep it thru 2017 unless she does more traveling this last quarter. That leaves us both with Gold, would it be worth it at the Conrad if I don't have lounge access? If not would you pick the HGI Kowloon or the DT Shenzhen Longhua? Which of those 2 properties is easier to navigate from?
We are staying at the Conrad in Singapore and the DT in Beijing so it doesn't make much difference with the luxury issue but if it is closer to transportation and sightseeing at the Conrad I'll probably book it.
Appreciate any ideas, Thanks
We are staying at the Conrad in Singapore and the DT in Beijing so it doesn't make much difference with the luxury issue but if it is closer to transportation and sightseeing at the Conrad I'll probably book it.
Appreciate any ideas, Thanks
With the DT Shenzen, IIRC you would need a Chinese visa each time you entered Shenzen as it is across the border in the PRC. ( plus you would need to clear immigration each way)
If just visiting Hong kong for a few days I would stay in Hong kong itself.
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Oct 8, 2016, 2:46 pm
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Oct 9, 2016, 12:46 am
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Hi,
My wife and I (age - 30s) are planning a vacation to South-East Asia (Singapore & HKG), which will be our first time there. The HKG trip will be for 5 nights towards the end of March 2017. I'm a Hilton Diamond member and wanted to use my HHonnors points.
I'm tempted between Hilton Conrad HKG (80K x 4= 320K points, 5th night free) or the new Hilton Garden Inn Kowloon (27K x 5 = 135K points, for some reason 5th night isn't free!?). If I go with the HGI Kowloon, I can use the saved points for my prior trip to Singapore (or else will have to book and pay regularly).
As I said, I've never been to HKG and I'm not familiar with the areas and city. For the most, we will be spending our time visiting tourist areas, and also include Macau (same-day trip).
I know part of it is based on personal preferences, but what would you recommend? Is it worth spending extra points and book HKG Conrad, vs saving points and booking HGI Kowloon? Is transportation/location an issue?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
My wife and I (age - 30s) are planning a vacation to South-East Asia (Singapore & HKG), which will be our first time there. The HKG trip will be for 5 nights towards the end of March 2017. I'm a Hilton Diamond member and wanted to use my HHonnors points.
I'm tempted between Hilton Conrad HKG (80K x 4= 320K points, 5th night free) or the new Hilton Garden Inn Kowloon (27K x 5 = 135K points, for some reason 5th night isn't free!?). If I go with the HGI Kowloon, I can use the saved points for my prior trip to Singapore (or else will have to book and pay regularly).
As I said, I've never been to HKG and I'm not familiar with the areas and city. For the most, we will be spending our time visiting tourist areas, and also include Macau (same-day trip).
I know part of it is based on personal preferences, but what would you recommend? Is it worth spending extra points and book HKG Conrad, vs saving points and booking HGI Kowloon? Is transportation/location an issue?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
Macau in a same day trip is going to be a long day. Not sure I'd do that. But perhaps it will be easier to do it that way vs. transporting luggage over to Macau. I really regret not visiting "old Macau" and only hanging around the casinos on that single night trip but time was a little tight; stayed one night in Macau which was honestly enough, I just did not plan it too well. I'm from Nevada and not a casino person but I was encouraged to go take a look at the gaming operations in Macau and I am glad I did that because they really are over the top.
I felt the trip worked out well and was able to see a lot. All of the hotels were great (especially the Macau and Hong Kong Conrads; Crowne Plaza Kowloon East the worst but it was by no means bad, better than most US hotels), public transportation there is wonderful and cost is minimal. Being it was my first trip to Asia I did not want any adventures with hotels and I did spend more than I normally would. For a return visit, especially to HKG, I would also consider some lower cost properties. HKG is simply a wonderful place.
Oct 9, 2016, 2:25 am
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I'd split it 2 nights at one and 3 nights at the other if you are looking to save costs. If cost is no object just do all 5 nights at the Conrad. I think you will be well taken care of at either property.
Macau in a same day trip is going to be a long day. Not sure I'd do that. But perhaps it will be easier to do it that way vs. transporting luggage over to Macau. I really regret not visiting "old Macau" and only hanging around the casinos on that single night trip but time was a little tight; stayed one night in Macau which was honestly enough, I just did not plan it too well. I'm from Nevada and not a casino person but I was encouraged to go take a look at the gaming operations in Macau and I am glad I did that because they really are over the top.
I felt the trip worked out well and was able to see a lot. All of the hotels were great (especially the Macau and Hong Kong Conrads; Crowne Plaza Kowloon East the worst but it was by no means bad, better than most US hotels), public transportation there is wonderful and cost is minimal. Being it was my first trip to Asia I did not want any adventures with hotels and I did spend more than I normally would. For a return visit, especially to HKG, I would also consider some lower cost properties. HKG is simply a wonderful place.
Macau in a same day trip is going to be a long day. Not sure I'd do that. But perhaps it will be easier to do it that way vs. transporting luggage over to Macau. I really regret not visiting "old Macau" and only hanging around the casinos on that single night trip but time was a little tight; stayed one night in Macau which was honestly enough, I just did not plan it too well. I'm from Nevada and not a casino person but I was encouraged to go take a look at the gaming operations in Macau and I am glad I did that because they really are over the top.
I felt the trip worked out well and was able to see a lot. All of the hotels were great (especially the Macau and Hong Kong Conrads; Crowne Plaza Kowloon East the worst but it was by no means bad, better than most US hotels), public transportation there is wonderful and cost is minimal. Being it was my first trip to Asia I did not want any adventures with hotels and I did spend more than I normally would. For a return visit, especially to HKG, I would also consider some lower cost properties. HKG is simply a wonderful place.
Instead of paying for 4 nights (1 night free), you're paying for all 5 nights even if it means the last 2 nights are cheaper (points wise). Makes no sense.
Oct 9, 2016, 11:55 am
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It sounded like the 27k point property was not offering the 5th night free.
5 nights at Conrad for 320,000 points or 2 nights at Conrad (160,000 points) and 3 nights at HGI (78,000 points) for a total of 238,000 points if splitting between the two is a fairly significant difference. That is why I suggested splitting the nights.
Obviously if the HGI will do the 5th night free and you can do all 4 nights at 104,000 points there that is by far the most points-friendly way (and a steal for HKG, a new property, breakfast included due to status) to go.
5 nights at Conrad for 320,000 points or 2 nights at Conrad (160,000 points) and 3 nights at HGI (78,000 points) for a total of 238,000 points if splitting between the two is a fairly significant difference. That is why I suggested splitting the nights.
Obviously if the HGI will do the 5th night free and you can do all 4 nights at 104,000 points there that is by far the most points-friendly way (and a steal for HKG, a new property, breakfast included due to status) to go.
Oct 9, 2016, 6:54 pm
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It sounded like the 27k point property was not offering the 5th night free.
5 nights at Conrad for 320,000 points or 2 nights at Conrad (160,000 points) and 3 nights at HGI (78,000 points) for a total of 238,000 points if splitting between the two is a fairly significant difference. That is why I suggested splitting the nights.
Obviously if the HGI will do the 5th night free and you can do all 4 nights at 104,000 points there that is by far the most points-friendly way (and a steal for HKG, a new property, breakfast included due to status) to go.
5 nights at Conrad for 320,000 points or 2 nights at Conrad (160,000 points) and 3 nights at HGI (78,000 points) for a total of 238,000 points if splitting between the two is a fairly significant difference. That is why I suggested splitting the nights.
Obviously if the HGI will do the 5th night free and you can do all 4 nights at 104,000 points there that is by far the most points-friendly way (and a steal for HKG, a new property, breakfast included due to status) to go.
33,750 per night × 4 nights ( 5th night free) = 135,000 which makes it an average of 27,000 per night after counting in the fifth night free.
On using points wise, the conrad is 80k per night ( $400/n) = $0.005 per point. The HGI is 33,750 per night ($80/n) = $0.00237 per point.
As you can see, based on this calculation, it's far more worth it to use points at the conrad than at the hgi.
Yes, the HGI is very worth it cash wise, not points wise.
Here's my opinion. If you want to go for the conrad, just use points for all 5 nights. If you want to go for the hgi, use cash for all 5 nights.
Oct 9, 2016, 7:19 pm
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I'd probably do three nights at the HGI with cash, two nights at the Conrad Macao with points and cash, if I really wanted to check out Macau. You get close to a penny a point with C&P vs. the refundable rate.
Oct 9, 2016, 11:41 pm
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It sounded like the 27k point property was not offering the 5th night free.
5 nights at Conrad for 320,000 points or 2 nights at Conrad (160,000 points) and 3 nights at HGI (78,000 points) for a total of 238,000 points if splitting between the two is a fairly significant difference. That is why I suggested splitting the nights.
Obviously if the HGI will do the 5th night free and you can do all 4 nights at 104,000 points there that is by far the most points-friendly way (and a steal for HKG, a new property, breakfast included due to status) to go.
5 nights at Conrad for 320,000 points or 2 nights at Conrad (160,000 points) and 3 nights at HGI (78,000 points) for a total of 238,000 points if splitting between the two is a fairly significant difference. That is why I suggested splitting the nights.
Obviously if the HGI will do the 5th night free and you can do all 4 nights at 104,000 points there that is by far the most points-friendly way (and a steal for HKG, a new property, breakfast included due to status) to go.
Oct 12, 2016, 3:21 am
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HGI no longer bookable (as of 10/10/16)?
Have been trying for the past couple days but it seems that the new HGI in Hong Kong is no longer bookable (for March 2017)!
Is any one else still able to book this HGI for any date?
Is any one else still able to book this HGI for any date?
Oct 12, 2016, 5:51 am
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Perhaps they're reloading inventory with rates to reflect demand/seasonal changes...
Here's to hoping availability pre-March is released too!
Here's to hoping availability pre-March is released too!
Oct 12, 2016, 1:31 pm
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Thanks all for the valuable feedback. Although I did get a few mixed messages, I think I will go with the following.
- I really wanted to visit Macau, at least to cross it out my to visit list. I think I can squeeze it in, when I first get to HKG early morning. I can head to Macau, visit the place for the day, and later at night travel back to HKG airport to pick up luggage, and then on to Hong Kong hotel. It might be tiresome, but I heard that there are quite a few transportation options between Macau-HKG airport- Hong Kong. Will have to think about luggage, but hopefully, there are some services at HKG airport.
- With regards to Conrad vs HGI, well, it was really about saving some points for the Singapore trip (I would max out points if I take Conrad vs HGI). Nevertheless, since it will be our first time in HKG, and would like it to be a unique experience, then I will probably go with Conrad. Hopefully, I can still find a luxury hotel in Singapore that's not overly expensive.