Can you still book into late 2014/2015 with points or did they fix it?
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What has also occurred to me...... How could they enforce it , if the system allows you to make the booking? Surely the system would just reject all reward bookings made more than a year out? The reward ID ( and paperless certificate as a previous poster called it) is linked to a booking that they KNOW is more than a year away. I really think there is difference in the type of reward redemption that is being discussed/made.
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System I believe does not allow booking beyond one year. People found a workaround via flexible days menu but that's not what Hilton intended. Hilton site is pretty terrible and buggy to begin with (I suspect you get what you pay for and Blackstone isn't gonna pay much).
Just as a note, I booked mine over a year out and never tried the flexible date feature.
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I wasn't going to comment on this thread as we got into a bit of an argument on the same issue in another thread but here's my two pennies worth.
I've booked the Conrad Maldives twice, March 2013 and March 2012, and made the bookings more than a year in advance. I have never had a problem with redemption.
I've booked the Conrad Maldives twice, March 2013 and March 2012, and made the bookings more than a year in advance. I have never had a problem with redemption.
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I wasn't going to comment on this thread as we got into a bit of an argument on the same issue in another thread but here's my two pennies worth.
I've booked the Conrad Maldives twice, March 2013 and March 2012, and made the bookings more than a year in advance. I have never had a problem with redemption.
I have now made my bookings for 2014 and 2015. I have reservation confirmations from Conrad. There are no certificates, there are confirmation numbers and reward confirmation IDs. When I have checked in, they never ask for certificates (there are none issued) as they have a confirmed reservation in their system.
I appreciate that everyone can have their own risk level but I feel that this is being made an issue which may not apply in all cases. I totally get it, if you are presenting a certificate demanded by hotel in order to redeem the room you have booked. If that's expired then of course there could be problems.
However, my experience is that the hotel I frequent in the Maldives don't care when the booking was made..... A booking is a booking. For extra security and to avoid any heartache later, I have decided to email the hotel to confirm the reservation before i book the travel :-)
I've booked the Conrad Maldives twice, March 2013 and March 2012, and made the bookings more than a year in advance. I have never had a problem with redemption.
I have now made my bookings for 2014 and 2015. I have reservation confirmations from Conrad. There are no certificates, there are confirmation numbers and reward confirmation IDs. When I have checked in, they never ask for certificates (there are none issued) as they have a confirmed reservation in their system.
I appreciate that everyone can have their own risk level but I feel that this is being made an issue which may not apply in all cases. I totally get it, if you are presenting a certificate demanded by hotel in order to redeem the room you have booked. If that's expired then of course there could be problems.
However, my experience is that the hotel I frequent in the Maldives don't care when the booking was made..... A booking is a booking. For extra security and to avoid any heartache later, I have decided to email the hotel to confirm the reservation before i book the travel :-)
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Thanks for your input. I'm looking to do something similar to confirm that the hotel will honor the certificate/award. What exactly will you ask the hotel to confirm? On another note, when I did the booking via the Hilton helpline, the agent advised that the certificate could be re-issued to deal with the 1-year expiry. She confirmed this with her supervisor, stating that some international hotels will load availability beyond 1 year. Additionally, it was the agent who actually made the booking for me as I could no longer "see" the requested dates on the HH website.
Likely, the only way to 'extend' your reward cert. is to 'update it' by means of cancelling your reservation and rebooking to get a new reward cert. number/ID (in which the new rate will now apply and/or the hotel will no longer be available for reward stays, if available at all). So, I would not trust this advice at all (unless you have some supervisors name and this message in writing from that supervisor).
The post above about this may not apply to all cases may be correct. This is correct in the way that the HOTEL may agree to allow you to stay even on a expired cert.; but not correct in the way that it implies an expiration date does not exist.
Anyone ever try to book a reward stay on an expired AXON, GLON, cc cert, or any other reward cert type?
They can be booked on the system, but it does not mean/guarantee your reward reservation will be honored.
Of course, ymmv with getting it honored, but the risk remains. Good luck to all who decide to take the risk and book non refundable flights. This may become an interesting thread a year from now when people can report back.
Of course, at times it may work. The danger is IF the hotel sells out, your dates of travel become extraordinary demand dates, or the hotel decides not to honor your reward cert. because it's expired. IMHO, you may be leaving it in the hands of the hotel.
Last edited by shoreline; Apr 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm
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I thought I would send a note to the hotel saying something like.........
"Dear X
I am just about to book my travel for my stay planned XX March 2014 and before doing so would like to reconfirm the reservation. The reservation ID number and the Reward confirmation number are XX and YY respectively. Could you kindly please confirm the reward redemption.
"Dear X
I am just about to book my travel for my stay planned XX March 2014 and before doing so would like to reconfirm the reservation. The reservation ID number and the Reward confirmation number are XX and YY respectively. Could you kindly please confirm the reward redemption.
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I wrote the following to a hotel:
"I made a reward reservation with points for April xx-yy, 2014 (reservation number xxxxxxxxxx). A friend of mine, however, told me that reward reservations at Hilton are only allowed 365 days out from the day the reservation was made, and that there was the danger that the hotel would not honor the reservation due to this (even though I was able to make the reservation online). Could you please let me know if this is true and whether you would honor the mentioned reservation, even though the stay would be more than 365 days from today ?"
Answer I got via e-mail: "Kindly note that your booking will be honour even if it was booked for over 365days in advance."
I think I should be safe with this one.
"I made a reward reservation with points for April xx-yy, 2014 (reservation number xxxxxxxxxx). A friend of mine, however, told me that reward reservations at Hilton are only allowed 365 days out from the day the reservation was made, and that there was the danger that the hotel would not honor the reservation due to this (even though I was able to make the reservation online). Could you please let me know if this is true and whether you would honor the mentioned reservation, even though the stay would be more than 365 days from today ?"
Answer I got via e-mail: "Kindly note that your booking will be honour even if it was booked for over 365days in advance."
I think I should be safe with this one.
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I followed your suggestion, and sent .......
I have made a reward reservation with HHonor points for March 22nd – April 5th, 2014 (reservation number xxxxxxxxx). A friend of mine, however, told me that reward reservations are only allowed 365 days out from the day the reservation was made, and that there was the danger that the hotel would not honor the reservation due to this, even though I was able to make the reservation online. Could you please let me know if this is true and whether you will honor the reservation, even though the stay is more than 365 days from the day I made the reservation ?
And in return received..........
We will honor your booking from 22nd March to 5th April 2014
Please advise flight details once your finalize flight reservation
Should have any query please contact us.
Makes me feel comfortable and glad I booked when I did.
I have made a reward reservation with HHonor points for March 22nd – April 5th, 2014 (reservation number xxxxxxxxx). A friend of mine, however, told me that reward reservations are only allowed 365 days out from the day the reservation was made, and that there was the danger that the hotel would not honor the reservation due to this, even though I was able to make the reservation online. Could you please let me know if this is true and whether you will honor the reservation, even though the stay is more than 365 days from the day I made the reservation ?
And in return received..........
We will honor your booking from 22nd March to 5th April 2014
Please advise flight details once your finalize flight reservation
Should have any query please contact us.
Makes me feel comfortable and glad I booked when I did.
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I followed your suggestion, and sent .......
I have made a reward reservation with HHonor points for March 22nd – April 5th, 2014 (reservation number xxxxxxxxx). A friend of mine, however, told me that reward reservations are only allowed 365 days out from the day the reservation was made, and that there was the danger that the hotel would not honor the reservation due to this, even though I was able to make the reservation online. Could you please let me know if this is true and whether you will honor the reservation, even though the stay is more than 365 days from the day I made the reservation ?
And in return received..........
We will honor your booking from 22nd March to 5th April 2014
Please advise flight details once your finalize flight reservation
Should have any query please contact us.
Makes me feel comfortable and glad I booked when I did.
I have made a reward reservation with HHonor points for March 22nd – April 5th, 2014 (reservation number xxxxxxxxx). A friend of mine, however, told me that reward reservations are only allowed 365 days out from the day the reservation was made, and that there was the danger that the hotel would not honor the reservation due to this, even though I was able to make the reservation online. Could you please let me know if this is true and whether you will honor the reservation, even though the stay is more than 365 days from the day I made the reservation ?
And in return received..........
We will honor your booking from 22nd March to 5th April 2014
Please advise flight details once your finalize flight reservation
Should have any query please contact us.
Makes me feel comfortable and glad I booked when I did.
So, why the continual scare-mongering from some posters, here and in the other thread? So much so that I received unsolicited PM's from one of the main nay sayers here stating he knows an "insider" and the reservations won't be honored.
Anyway, as I said before, to those that claim it won't be honored, show me your evidence. Until then I have more than ample evidence to suggest otherwise.
Last edited by whimike; Apr 4, 2013 at 8:03 pm
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Exactly as it should be. Nothing in the T&C states anything about an expiration except for vaguely worded "travel rewards" which are defined as something else further down in the T&C. A number of us called Hilton and confirmed they would be honored, people have direct experience staying at hotels on rewards that were over a year out, and now there is written e-mail evidence from the hotel and Hilton the reservations will be honored.
So, why the continual scare-mongering from some posters, here and in the other thread? So much so that I received unsolicited PM's from one of the main nay sayers here stating he knows an "insider" and the reservations won't be honored.
Anyway, as I said before, to those that claim it won't be honored, show me your evidence. Until then I have more than ample evidence to suggest otherwise.
So, why the continual scare-mongering from some posters, here and in the other thread? So much so that I received unsolicited PM's from one of the main nay sayers here stating he knows an "insider" and the reservations won't be honored.
Anyway, as I said before, to those that claim it won't be honored, show me your evidence. Until then I have more than ample evidence to suggest otherwise.
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Just sent a request for confirmation as well, will update this thread once (if?) I hear back from the hotel. I have to agree with the budding consensus that these will be honored.
In my case, I made 2 AXON award reservations for Summer 2014 for the Conrad Maldives. The phone agent was more than happy to make this for me, and certainly made no mention of any cert expiration. I suspect that they would have to jump through some odd logic hoops to justify not honoring these reservations.
In my case, I made 2 AXON award reservations for Summer 2014 for the Conrad Maldives. The phone agent was more than happy to make this for me, and certainly made no mention of any cert expiration. I suspect that they would have to jump through some odd logic hoops to justify not honoring these reservations.
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Just sent a request for confirmation as well, will update this thread once (if?) I hear back from the hotel. I have to agree with the budding consensus that these will be honored.
In my case, I made 2 AXON award reservations for Summer 2014 for the Conrad Maldives. The phone agent was more than happy to make this for me, and certainly made no mention of any cert expiration. I suspect that they would have to jump through some odd logic hoops to justify not honoring these reservations.
In my case, I made 2 AXON award reservations for Summer 2014 for the Conrad Maldives. The phone agent was more than happy to make this for me, and certainly made no mention of any cert expiration. I suspect that they would have to jump through some odd logic hoops to justify not honoring these reservations.
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And, to those that claimed doomsday for us all (including the guy that kept PM'ing me) and got some to change their reservations...