A UK Hilton has police raid my room, says I was running a brothel
Mar 30, 2012, 9:24 am
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I don't know about OP's wife, but if it had happened to my wife and her friends, she will never stay at that hotel again. Once she was in a bank and the teller asked her if she is a "mail ordered bride" just because of her Russian accent. She never went back to that bank again. Judging someone just by accent or color of the skin is just plain wrong.
Compare that to the man, in a different business, who told my husband that he was a very kind man for having married a woman in a wheelchair. My husband was utterly confused by that statement, and has never done business there again. All he can think of is, "Maybe he doesn't realize you are beautiful, or maybe he is incapable of having a conversation with you. Either way, it is his loss entirely." When you judge people so easily, you may find yourself losing business just as easily.
Mar 30, 2012, 5:02 pm
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OK, thanks to pressure from Hilton Corporate, the deputy manager of the hotel called me today. His side of the story is this.
The local police have been asking all the hotels about any clues of suspect behavior which might lead them to believe that prostitution rings, or trafficking of women is going on. During a previous stay while I was out working, my wife had a couple of girlfriends visit. One was black, the other was from Hungary. So the hotel reported to the police that my wife was in the room alone with a black woman and a woman with a strong eastern European accent. And since I was always arriving late and leaving early to work, the hotel never even saw me there. That plus one of the maids reported seeing a video camera in our room. These "clues" were reported by the hotel to the police. Maybe they had some other thin observations, but I don't know. The police were then alerted that I had another reservation coming up and that's when they knocked on our door.
The deputy manager said that all his staff know he is reachable 24x7 by mobile phone and he couldn't explain why the duty manager refused to contact him after I asked to speak to someone. He said that the hotel had no problems with our behavior up until that point, but once the police were involved they could not discuss the matter with me until the police cleared it. He said that after my "interview", the police told him that we were not under any suspicion. The manager welcomes me back anytime and said to email him the next time I visit.
The local police have been asking all the hotels about any clues of suspect behavior which might lead them to believe that prostitution rings, or trafficking of women is going on. During a previous stay while I was out working, my wife had a couple of girlfriends visit. One was black, the other was from Hungary. So the hotel reported to the police that my wife was in the room alone with a black woman and a woman with a strong eastern European accent. And since I was always arriving late and leaving early to work, the hotel never even saw me there. That plus one of the maids reported seeing a video camera in our room. These "clues" were reported by the hotel to the police. Maybe they had some other thin observations, but I don't know. The police were then alerted that I had another reservation coming up and that's when they knocked on our door.
The deputy manager said that all his staff know he is reachable 24x7 by mobile phone and he couldn't explain why the duty manager refused to contact him after I asked to speak to someone. He said that the hotel had no problems with our behavior up until that point, but once the police were involved they could not discuss the matter with me until the police cleared it. He said that after my "interview", the police told him that we were not under any suspicion. The manager welcomes me back anytime and said to email him the next time I visit.
1. Manager claims the hotel had 'no problem' with your behavior. For some bizarre reason a maid "reported" you had a video camera. I am shocked to hear that maids spontaneously volunteer information to management regarding the consumer electronics in a guest's room.
Manager takes detailed notes on the race and ethnicity of visitors to your room and notifies police of an upcoming stay. 2. Manager manages to disappear from hotel at the time of police visit, (which he knew was inevitable, since he called the police to notify them of your stay) and staff claims he is impossible to contact for the next 48 hours. Manager claims he was always reachable 24x7 by mobile phone, and all of his staff know this, so he is puzzled and unable to explain his employee's behavior. Manager also claims that he was not allowed to talk to you until the police 'cleared' you. Which is it? Should he have been contacted or not? Would he have talked to you or not?
3. Manager refuses to call you until he receives pressure from Hilton Corporate. Manager "welcomes" you back to the hotel.
If I had to call the police, and warn them that an elite-status guest who has been a repeat visitor at my hotel may be trafficking in women, I would make damn sure I was present for the police visit. Either someone will be arrested and escorted off my property, or I will have a very upset guest on my hands. What a despicable piece of slime this manager must be to foist the responsibility for dealing with that situation to a front desk clerk.
The fact that the manager was not on the phone to you the instant the police 'cleared' you, the fact that an assistant manager actually called and invited you to 'share your concerns' when the hotel knew exactly what had occurred... I think the BMG certificate is a fair response from Hilton Corporate, but I certainly will not be making reservations at the Hilton Dundee anytime soon.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the show?
Apr 3, 2012, 3:56 am
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WOW,
They dared to call the police, INCREDIBLE
This is even more humiliating than what happened to our hotel some years ago.
They asked for my gf id when we got back to our room after 11pm pretending she was a prostitute and I was a paying customer.
It took me a couple of minutes to explain the situation (they seemed to not believe it, but i told clearly with checked in together)
It happened at Excelsior in HK several years ago, I used to stay at that hotel frequently but totally cancelled it since this happening, and yes, it was humiliating for us.
Just to be clear, my gf wasn't wearing a slutty mini-skirt on high-heels and no make up at all.
She just had a shirt, confortable shoes and a pair of jeans.
They dared to call the police, INCREDIBLE
This is even more humiliating than what happened to our hotel some years ago.
They asked for my gf id when we got back to our room after 11pm pretending she was a prostitute and I was a paying customer.
It took me a couple of minutes to explain the situation (they seemed to not believe it, but i told clearly with checked in together)
It happened at Excelsior in HK several years ago, I used to stay at that hotel frequently but totally cancelled it since this happening, and yes, it was humiliating for us.
Just to be clear, my gf wasn't wearing a slutty mini-skirt on high-heels and no make up at all.
She just had a shirt, confortable shoes and a pair of jeans.
Last edited by irongloves; Apr 3, 2012 at 4:05 am
Apr 3, 2012, 4:26 am
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Stimpy - as the wife of a now retired police officer for the past 26 years - I am so embarrassed by this story. I am equally highly irritated at some of the rubbish being written here about what the police do or don't do in the UK.
Without going into all of this - the hotel was way way out of order in summoning the police and my husband (who is equally perplexed by this course of events) wondered if this had happened there in the past.
Any hotel worthy of its name should have come to the room to check who was in there - and I think that they have a right to do that. The Management should have asked to see you privately and had a conversation particularly in view of the fact that you have a profile which is known to them through HHonors.
I think that they have not only insulted you, but particularly your wife and her friends. My husband would have had me out of that hotel there and then. Never mind him I would not spend another moment under their roof. They owe you nothing less than a letter of apology from the Operations Manager (whatever he does). I am unclear whether you are entitled to take people who are not registered guests up to your room as frankly I have met friends and had drinks in the room. However it may be forbidden I have no real idea. I mostly stay as crew and we all visit each other's rooms and sometimes we have friends locally whom we meet for dinner. However, the calling of the police on the basis that you were pimping and living on immoral earnings is disgraceful. If they thought that and asked you to leave the hotel that would be sufficient so I wonder if this has been a persistent problem and the police have asked them to take this course of action. You say that they have offered you a free night frankly as it costs them nothing I think that this is inadequate at best and cheap at worst.
This is an utter disgrace, and the only reason that I am sorry that you do not say where it happened is so that the rest of us can boycott the place in the event that we might inadvertently stay there. I rather thought that it sounded more like an airport hotel as all sorts go on there - but I am NOT fishing. I'm just mortified that this was Britain.
PGxx
Without going into all of this - the hotel was way way out of order in summoning the police and my husband (who is equally perplexed by this course of events) wondered if this had happened there in the past.
Any hotel worthy of its name should have come to the room to check who was in there - and I think that they have a right to do that. The Management should have asked to see you privately and had a conversation particularly in view of the fact that you have a profile which is known to them through HHonors.
I think that they have not only insulted you, but particularly your wife and her friends. My husband would have had me out of that hotel there and then. Never mind him I would not spend another moment under their roof. They owe you nothing less than a letter of apology from the Operations Manager (whatever he does). I am unclear whether you are entitled to take people who are not registered guests up to your room as frankly I have met friends and had drinks in the room. However it may be forbidden I have no real idea. I mostly stay as crew and we all visit each other's rooms and sometimes we have friends locally whom we meet for dinner. However, the calling of the police on the basis that you were pimping and living on immoral earnings is disgraceful. If they thought that and asked you to leave the hotel that would be sufficient so I wonder if this has been a persistent problem and the police have asked them to take this course of action. You say that they have offered you a free night frankly as it costs them nothing I think that this is inadequate at best and cheap at worst.
This is an utter disgrace, and the only reason that I am sorry that you do not say where it happened is so that the rest of us can boycott the place in the event that we might inadvertently stay there. I rather thought that it sounded more like an airport hotel as all sorts go on there - but I am NOT fishing. I'm just mortified that this was Britain.
PGxx
Apr 3, 2012, 4:35 am
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Apr 3, 2012, 5:14 am
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If Central London hoteliers were that concerned about "evening commerce", they might start by watching their lobbies
. As an aside, many years ago, an acquaintence of mine had a lady guest join him in his room at a Park Lane hotel. Within minutes, there came a knock at the door, whereupon the management demanded the guest vacate the room. He later learned that the issue was he had paid a single rate (in those days, luxury hotels charged for the second guest). I wonder what would have happened if Stimpy had a suite? Many London luxury hotels hotels have a unique operating paradigm. Smoking floors suddenly appear when Mideast guests arrive in large numbers. A few months ago, as I walked down the hallway of a $700 a night establishment in Mayfair, I was greeted by the sight of an army of steam devices, obviously trying to get rid of tobacco odors. Oh, and if Stimpy had been a burly guy, with a Russian accent, and a couple of day's stubble, my guess is the only noise he would have heard was the bill being shoved under the door. Fear is a great motivator.
. As an aside, many years ago, an acquaintence of mine had a lady guest join him in his room at a Park Lane hotel. Within minutes, there came a knock at the door, whereupon the management demanded the guest vacate the room. He later learned that the issue was he had paid a single rate (in those days, luxury hotels charged for the second guest). I wonder what would have happened if Stimpy had a suite? Many London luxury hotels hotels have a unique operating paradigm. Smoking floors suddenly appear when Mideast guests arrive in large numbers. A few months ago, as I walked down the hallway of a $700 a night establishment in Mayfair, I was greeted by the sight of an army of steam devices, obviously trying to get rid of tobacco odors. Oh, and if Stimpy had been a burly guy, with a Russian accent, and a couple of day's stubble, my guess is the only noise he would have heard was the bill being shoved under the door. Fear is a great motivator.
Apr 3, 2012, 5:32 am
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The Sun - Hookers 'cleaned off London's streets' ahead of Olympics
Wonder if they're just going nationwide with a special push...
Wonder if they're just going nationwide with a special push...
Apr 3, 2012, 9:09 am
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WOW,
They dared to call the police, INCREDIBLE
This is even more humiliating than what happened to our hotel some years ago.
They asked for my gf id when we got back to our room after 11pm pretending she was a prostitute and I was a paying customer.
It took me a couple of minutes to explain the situation (they seemed to not believe it, but i told clearly with checked in together)
It happened at Excelsior in HK several years ago, I used to stay at that hotel frequently but totally cancelled it since this happening, and yes, it was humiliating for us.
Just to be clear, my gf wasn't wearing a slutty mini-skirt on high-heels and no make up at all.
She just had a shirt, confortable shoes and a pair of jeans.
They dared to call the police, INCREDIBLE
This is even more humiliating than what happened to our hotel some years ago.
They asked for my gf id when we got back to our room after 11pm pretending she was a prostitute and I was a paying customer.
It took me a couple of minutes to explain the situation (they seemed to not believe it, but i told clearly with checked in together)
It happened at Excelsior in HK several years ago, I used to stay at that hotel frequently but totally cancelled it since this happening, and yes, it was humiliating for us.
Just to be clear, my gf wasn't wearing a slutty mini-skirt on high-heels and no make up at all.
She just had a shirt, confortable shoes and a pair of jeans.
Apr 3, 2012, 10:07 am
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Checking in at the hospital in the midst of labor, the admitting staff asked American-born/Chinese descent Mrs. Jailer to answer questions while she was power-breathing. Receiving no answer they asked, “Lady, do you speak English?”
To this day, 21 years later, when having a discussion with my wife that appears to me, at any rate, to make no sense I always ask, “Lady, do you speak English?” I do watch my back for a few days afterwards; you know how those foreign Orientals do hold a grudge.
To this day, 21 years later, when having a discussion with my wife that appears to me, at any rate, to make no sense I always ask, “Lady, do you speak English?” I do watch my back for a few days afterwards; you know how those foreign Orientals do hold a grudge.
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Apr 3, 2012, 10:18 am
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