A UK Hilton has police raid my room, says I was running a brothel
Apr 19, 2012, 12:30 am
#166
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I saw this thread when it was only two or three posts long. I had the basic gist of the OP's story and felt like I knew where it was likely to go, so I never checked back.
Just now I saw that it was up to 11 pages. Curious, I decided to see what all the hubbub is about.
Based on the post directly above mine, I'm going to go back and re-read the whole thing. It appears that I missed out on some quality FT.
Just now I saw that it was up to 11 pages. Curious, I decided to see what all the hubbub is about.
Based on the post directly above mine, I'm going to go back and re-read the whole thing. It appears that I missed out on some quality FT.
It includes a detective story, fact, fiction, fairy tales, and a surprise ending!!!
It is very interesting to see how each person would have handled the situation completely different!
Well, When I'm in the UK end of May, I'll be sure to keep my hotel friend visits to a minimum! Haha. Don't want to raise any eye brows.
May 7, 2012, 12:52 am
#169
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I seem to be on a roll with reposting this link but it does apply and think you could have soooo much fun with this.
http://www.hyperorg.com/misc/DoubleT...les/frame.html
http://www.hyperorg.com/misc/DoubleT...les/frame.html
May 7, 2012, 12:58 am
#170
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Nothing here seems to add up.
1. Manager claims the hotel had 'no problem' with your behavior. For some bizarre reason a maid "reported" you had a video camera. I am shocked to hear that maids spontaneously volunteer information to management regarding the consumer electronics in a guest's room.
Manager takes detailed notes on the race and ethnicity of visitors to your room and notifies police of an upcoming stay. 2. Manager manages to disappear from hotel at the time of police visit, (which he knew was inevitable, since he called the police to notify them of your stay) and staff claims he is impossible to contact for the next 48 hours. Manager claims he was always reachable 24x7 by mobile phone, and all of his staff know this, so he is puzzled and unable to explain his employee's behavior. Manager also claims that he was not allowed to talk to you until the police 'cleared' you. Which is it? Should he have been contacted or not? Would he have talked to you or not?
3. Manager refuses to call you until he receives pressure from Hilton Corporate. Manager "welcomes" you back to the hotel.
If I had to call the police, and warn them that an elite-status guest who has been a repeat visitor at my hotel may be trafficking in women, I would make damn sure I was present for the police visit. Either someone will be arrested and escorted off my property, or I will have a very upset guest on my hands. What a despicable piece of slime this manager must be to foist the responsibility for dealing with that situation to a front desk clerk.
The fact that the manager was not on the phone to you the instant the police 'cleared' you, the fact that an assistant manager actually called and invited you to 'share your concerns' when the hotel knew exactly what had occurred... I think the BMG certificate is a fair response from Hilton Corporate, but I certainly will not be making reservations at the Hilton Dundee anytime soon.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the show?
May 7, 2012, 1:06 am
#171
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Perhaps that was what he meant to say, but it certainly isn't what he did say. What he posted has only one meaning in the English language - that his girlfriend was pretending to be a prostitute and that he was pretending to be a paying customer. IMO, we have to assume that posters mean to say what they say, otherwise we end up fantasizing about what they might have meant to say, and rational discussion disappears.
May 7, 2012, 6:10 am
#172
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I have to say it is a "Raid" and it is getting more common in UK than the retired policeman's wife thought.
If he refused to open the door or not at the room, the police WILL ask the hotel manager to open the door and check his belongs. It is getting worse and worse now, anyone with "suspicion" about their neighbours or whatever, they should REPORT to the police. That's message from the police's 2012 Feb Counter Terrorism Campaign. It's racial profiling gone mad in UK now.
If he refused to open the door or not at the room, the police WILL ask the hotel manager to open the door and check his belongs. It is getting worse and worse now, anyone with "suspicion" about their neighbours or whatever, they should REPORT to the police. That's message from the police's 2012 Feb Counter Terrorism Campaign. It's racial profiling gone mad in UK now.
May 7, 2012, 8:09 am
#173
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 270
Just coming late to this thread.
Firstly, Scotland has instigated a nationwide anti-people trafficking department across all eight Scottish forces. These dedicated officers attend regular meetings and exchange information with each other.
In Scotland, ethic mixes are not nearly as common as in England. Yes there are of course black people, but not nearly as many as in England. So in some places, a black face can stand out a bit. Eastern European voices are far more common that black faces.
Anyway. The anti trafficking teams are in contact with all hotels on a regular basis asking the staff to be on the lookout for suspicious guests. They explain to the hotel management that they are looking for rooms where the room is booked by a man or even a woman who they basically don't ever see. Then the room is subsequently occupied for a few days by multiple women, frequently of different nationalities.
If they encounter this, then they are requested to alert the local anti people trafficking team.
In this circumstance, by a sheer fluke, the OP fell almost exactly into this remit, thus the visit by the plod the next time he checked in. All this outrage seems a bit unfair to me.
The hotel was merely doing what it was asked by the police.
However I do agree that the fallout was badly handled by the hotel. They should have been at the door as soon as the police left with a bottle of bubbly and a free upgrade!
Firstly, Scotland has instigated a nationwide anti-people trafficking department across all eight Scottish forces. These dedicated officers attend regular meetings and exchange information with each other.
In Scotland, ethic mixes are not nearly as common as in England. Yes there are of course black people, but not nearly as many as in England. So in some places, a black face can stand out a bit. Eastern European voices are far more common that black faces.
Anyway. The anti trafficking teams are in contact with all hotels on a regular basis asking the staff to be on the lookout for suspicious guests. They explain to the hotel management that they are looking for rooms where the room is booked by a man or even a woman who they basically don't ever see. Then the room is subsequently occupied for a few days by multiple women, frequently of different nationalities.
If they encounter this, then they are requested to alert the local anti people trafficking team.
In this circumstance, by a sheer fluke, the OP fell almost exactly into this remit, thus the visit by the plod the next time he checked in. All this outrage seems a bit unfair to me.
The hotel was merely doing what it was asked by the police.
However I do agree that the fallout was badly handled by the hotel. They should have been at the door as soon as the police left with a bottle of bubbly and a free upgrade!