philemer

They were only accepted those through Sunday.

BeachRat

Oops, sorry for not being clear here. My comment was in response to the previous poster, which I took to mean the state requiring a negative COVID test Prior to their flight Into Hawaii, and as such the state can certainly not mandate. Having a federal mandate that required all passengers to provide a negative COVID result before boarding would add an additional level of safety, but that’s a discussion for a different board.

Whether the state could mandate a COVID test on arrival, and what recourse they have if positive is out of my purview, so I’ll leave that up to the local experts as to whether that could have been implemented, but wasn’t for some particular reason,

Clayfu

Has anyone found testing that allows ages under 5 to test? my daughter is 4.5 years old and it seems all available trusted partners in socal don't allow her to test.

Erasmus

Kaiser is the only one of which I am aware, sadly. Doesn't help if you're not a member, I realize. Be aware kids under 5 don't need a test to skip quarantine in HI, though--presuming they arrive with an adult that did.

LIH Prem

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Deja vu all over again? .. (link to a specific reply in this thread on Oct 17)

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawa...l#post32755201

Weatherboy

The "positive" passengers that came through KOA Thursday-Saturday have now all tested negative through a follow-up PCR test. Because of that, the Mayor of Hawaii is thinking of killing the airport testing program and replacing it with with a scheme that requires passengers to be tested 3 or 4 days after they arrive.

The Hawaii Island mayor also says the Governor approved his interisland program starting tomorrow. People can test-out of quarantine for that by taking a test within 72 hours of departure to the Big Island -or- upon taking a test once they get back. The idea is they'd quarantine until that test is taken. So you could fly from ITO to HNL for a few days without any test, return to KOA, go to one of the free PCR testing sites on-island, and get released from quarantine once those results come in.

flyinryan

Source for this? Is there an article somewhere, or just coconut wireless?

LAXOGG

At least 23 Covid-19 cases on Lanai now. Expect announcement of shutdown later this morning by mayor Victorino.

BlueZebra

New cases? Assume they can easily lock down the island without much affect on Maui, even tho they are both in the same county.

mtofell

So, I'm Maui bound on Sunday and went to have my test today at Kaiser. It seems tough getting consistent information from people but as best I can tell they have two tests, both of which are compliant for going to Hawaii. The only difference is one is rapid results and and the other is not. When they heard mine was for flying they gave me the rapid result one which is the deep stick up the nose (not fun at all btw). This test seemed different than what most people were getting as they had me get out of my car and come inside whereas most people were just getting swabbed while in their cars.

As I was leaving (and in my never ending quest to find things to worry about) I realized I had the test at 11:50AM Thursday and the last leg of my flight leaves at 11:25AM Sunday. So, what happens if my plane doesn't depart on time and I go over the 72-hours? Everything I can find on the HI travel website just says you must have a test within 72 hours of the departure of the last leg of your flight. I was hoping to find the words "scheduled departure" but they aren't there. I wanted to get the test early in the game in case there are problems getting the results but didn't consider that could be a problem if the flight is delayed.

sullim4

The scope of the outbreak on Lanai is large enough imo to warrant a pause to the pre-travel program in Maui County. You can't just seal off Lanai - the island is dependent on Maui for supplies, medical services, and other essential services. One of the articles I read mentioned a Lanai outbreak as a 'worst case scenario' for Hawaii given the logistical hurdles Lanai faces. Having been there last year, I totally believe it.

My prediction is that Maui County opts out of the pre-travel testing program sometime soon.

Boraxo

Another reason not to book travel to Hawaii: it's a nightmare if you get sick or test positive - for the whole family.

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/articl...i-15661683.php

Given the uncertainty I am leaning more to Mexico now - the plane ride is more dangerous (no pre-test requirement) but the accommodations and meals are cheaper and there is little risk of a sudden closure or quarantine.

Unfortunately, this makes a lot of sense and Iceland has adopted a very similar program (though one that is even stricter as you have to quarantine before the second test). Iceland originally adopted a test-on-arrival plan but found that local infections spiked because travelers got false negatives, which are far more common than false positives.

There is no solution that is 100% effective. IMO the best course is require a pretest to get on the plane, and to keep indoor spaces (restaurants, bars, theatres) closed. Iceland did not do that and is now paying the price.

Close2KADS

mtofell,

Here’s information on this subject from hawaiicovid19.com FAQs:

Q: Will my test results be accepted if my flight to Hawai‘i is delayed by weather or mechanical issues?

A: You will not be subject to the State of Hawai‘i’s 14-day mandatory self-quarantine if your departure is delayed by the airline, and you complete pre-travel testing 72 hours before the departure time of the final leg of your flight to Hawai‘i and have a negative test result. This provision does not apply to any additional quarantine rules imposed by island counties separate and apart from the State of Hawai‘i’s pre-test waiver.

I extracted this information a few minutes ago, so as of October 22, it’s current.

FYI, your test experience sounds just like the one I had a week ago.

cmculp

I just bailed on a trip back to the islands Nov 7th because the logistical risks are too great. A positive test on arrival means you are stuck in a bad quarantine situation, not near much sophisticated medical care, and unable to go home. You can’t at that point even get over to Honolulu and Tripler or Queen’s.

Case rate are rising alarmingly nation wide (except Hawaii), and the risk of getting sick far from home are real and problematic

Weyland Yutani Corp

It’s a bit of a conundrum. The worst part of it for me is indeed the flights and the unknown of transmission on said flights (I would only go to HNL right now). Once I get to where I’m going, I’m not as concerned. I can mask and distance no problem.