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Dec 16, 2017, 10:53 pm

#826

747FC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

My brother just booked PDX-HNL-AKL for next March with these new lie flats for $3600 RT in J.

You sure that he is on lie-flats from PDX? I was just looking at a PDX-HNL itinerary in June, and there was a non-lie-flat.

Dec 16, 2017, 11:09 pm

#827

355F1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 747FC

You sure that he is on lie-flats from PDX? I was just looking at a PDX-HNL itinerary in June, and there was a non-lie-flat.

im pretty sure it said lie flats for both legs but I remember telling him it might be standard FC seats on that leg.

Dec 17, 2017, 9:48 am

#828

Kumulani

Join Date: Jun 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 747FC

You sure that he is on lie-flats from PDX? I was just looking at a PDX-HNL itinerary in June, and there was a non-lie-flat.

At this point PDX is high probability for lie flats.

Dec 17, 2017, 12:38 pm

#829

azj

Join Date: Mar 2002

Posts: 2,576

Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

im pretty sure it said lie flats for both legs but I remember telling him it might be standard FC seats on that leg.

By June, barring any unforeseen circumstances, all 24 330s will have the lie flat cabins. The last several will be reconfigured in Q1 2018. That said... there's always a chance that the PDX-HNL route will join the 321 network.

Dec 17, 2017, 1:48 pm

#830

Kumulani

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Quote:

Originally Posted by azj

355F1 said March. 747FC said June, but I'm pretty sure that was referring to last June.

Dec 17, 2017, 2:24 pm

#831

747FC

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumulani

355F1 said March. 747FC said June, but I'm pretty sure that was referring to last June.

Next June

Dec 17, 2017, 2:42 pm

#832

Kumulani

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 747FC

Next June

Hmm. In that case, they probably haven't updated their site yet to reflect the completion of the conversions. Maybe they're holding off on this intentionally until they're more sure when they'll be done.

Jan 7, 2018, 10:34 am

#833

enginere808

Join Date: Nov 2015

Location: Honolulu, HI

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Recently flew KIX-HNL and thought the overall hard product and service was nice. We did however have to get reassigned twice due to issues with the ottoman on all seats in the last row. Anyhow I was always impressed with HA biz availability since many times it was easy to find 3+ seats on many international routes. I was getting ready to book HNL-SYD for my family and noticed that HA has reduced the number of award seats in business class to just 2 per flight for most of their international routes. Have only had luck finding 3 seats on some 2 or 3 odd days for the whole year. Extremely sad about this change doubt it will go back to the wide open availability it used to be.

Jan 8, 2018, 12:44 pm

#834

davidsfo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by azj

PDX//HNL goes to a 321 in November 2018.

Jan 9, 2018, 12:07 pm

#835

azj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidsfo

PDX//HNL goes to a 321 in November 2018.

Perhaps. The November schedule is so far out and I would expect things to change between now and then.

Last edited by azj; Jan 9, 2018 at 6:32 pm

Jan 9, 2018, 1:00 pm

#836

CRJ200flyer

Join Date: Nov 2017

Location: ORD

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Given PDX and OAK are the two A321 maintenance bases, I'd guess they're pretty likely to stay 321 once the equipment switches over.

Jan 21, 2018, 10:02 pm

#837

bhuwan

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posts: 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by azj

All flights to LA on the 330 are sold as lie-flat cabins in F class.

Firstly, thank you for the wiki,. If you recall, I was booking flights back in August and trying to understand how to get lie flat seats and that promoted you to create the wiki!!

Having said that, not all HNL-LAX, from my research, are 100% guaranteed to be a lie-flat configuration. When I booked my HNL-LAX flight it did not say "lie flat" under first class(as it does for JFK-HNL, and other "guaranteed" routes)

Here is a recent flight with the old configuration in a 330!!!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N392HA
HA2, HNL-LAX, 4pm departure

Jan 22, 2018, 9:48 am

#838

millions

Join Date: Apr 2006

Posts: 469

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhuwan

I was on this flight in seat 2A yesterday, and it was miserable! Not just worse than the new seating I flew to HNL on and was expecting in return, but the most unpleasant medium haul flight I can remember in a premium cabin in years. The man in the aisle seat was quite large, and there was of course no way to get in or out without interrupting his snoring. The foot rest on the old seat was broken, so not only was there no lie flat, I couldn't put my feet up at all. The cabin was extremely warm, and there were no personal air blowers; the AC outlet didn't work at all for some reason, and the USB charger managed to take my iPad only from 19% charged to 34% over the 5+ hours. And the food--some beef and sausage "meatloaf" concoction--was inedible.

Really horrible experience on the return leg of my first flight on Hawaiian.

Jan 22, 2018, 11:10 am

#839

azj

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Posts: 2,576

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhuwan

I actually didn't create the Wiki, but I have been updating it. I believe KUMULANI created it. The last of the LAX flights went on "sale" for the lie flat cabins earlier this month. That said, there is never a guarantee as last minute equipment swaps are always a possibility, which is probably why 392 was flying flight 2 to LAX. Of course, HAL would like to prevent a swap like this because it does create issues for the guests and for the staff.

Last edited by azj; Jan 22, 2018 at 11:16 am

Jan 22, 2018, 11:14 am

#840

azj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by millions

Sorry to hear about your experience. One can always ask the cabin crew to adjust the temperature if there is discomfort and I hope you mentioned the power and foot rest issues so that the mechanics can address the problems. As for the food, that matter is subjective, because I personally think the meatloaf is pretty decent. Not like Mom's, but certainly edible. And seatmates... well, that's always the luck of the draw out of the airlines control.