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Old Nov 1, 2017, 8:25 am
  #1066  
 
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Probably wasn't a good idea on my part to try and compare TR to a hotel loyalty program.
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by sbjnyc
Probably wasn't a good idea on my part to try and compare TR to a hotel loyalty program.
I think it's a legitimate comparison, but with caveats. But, most earn a very small amount of tier for spend in comparison to what they earn for casino play (gambling).
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
You do realize my post (above) is directly from the TR website? (regarding earning tier for spend....)
I went to the TR desk and asked about it. The emphasis is on the word PLAY. you can spend $1000 at a gift shop, they will not give you 2000 TP, but 1000.
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by skyscanner
I went to the TR desk and asked about it. The emphasis is on the word PLAY. you can spend $1000 at a gift shop, they will not give you 2000 TP, but 1000.
Le sigh... Also directly from their site:

Total Rewards - Will Tier Credit bonuses be awarded based on hospitality spend?

Published 06/10/2013 03:42 PM
Updated 10/31/2017 04:47 PMWe appreciate your interest in Tier Credit bonuses. You can earn Tier Credit bonuses based on hospitality spend. However, Tier Credits earned for hospitality spend (dining, entertainment, hotel, shopping, spa, and golf) may take up to ten days to post to your account. Tier Credit bonuses will be awarded based on the date the Tier Credits post to the account, not the date of purchase.

Source: https://totalrewards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2016/~/total-rewards---will-tier-credit-bonuses-be-awarded-based-on-hospitality-spend%3F
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Harry Lyme
Le sigh... Also directly from their site:

Total Rewards - Will Tier Credit bonuses be awarded based on hospitality spend?

Published 06/10/2013 03:42 PM
Updated 10/31/2017 04:47 PMWe appreciate your interest in Tier Credit bonuses. You can earn Tier Credit bonuses based on hospitality spend. However, Tier Credits earned for hospitality spend (dining, entertainment, hotel, shopping, spa, and golf) may take up to ten days to post to your account. Tier Credit bonuses will be awarded based on the date the Tier Credits post to the account, not the date of purchase.

Source: https://totalrewards.custhelp.com/ap...ality-spend%3F
So if I have 497 tier credits for the day and buy a bottle of coke which doesn't post until the next day I lose my 125 TC bonus? Seriously though, I wonder if someone booking conferences can strategically straggle the purchases to maximize the bonuses. Enough business might get enough for 7* but I guess CET probably wouldn't invite non-players to 7* just from hospitality spend.
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Harry Lyme
Le sigh... Also directly from their site:

Total Rewards - Will Tier Credit bonuses be awarded based on hospitality spend?

Published 06/10/2013 03:42 PM
Updated 10/31/2017 04:47 PMWe appreciate your interest in Tier Credit bonuses. You can earn Tier Credit bonuses based on hospitality spend. However, Tier Credits earned for hospitality spend (dining, entertainment, hotel, shopping, spa, and golf) may take up to ten days to post to your account. Tier Credit bonuses will be awarded based on the date the Tier Credits post to the account, not the date of purchase.

Source: https://totalrewards.custhelp.com/ap...ality-spend%3F
No, I asked again at the TR desk at the Rio this afternoon, they were adamant that only play gives you bonuses.
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by skyscanner
No, I asked again at the TR desk at the Rio this afternoon, they were adamant that only play gives you bonuses.
It's been tested. That's all I know. Not me personally. But from a reliable source.
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by howtofreetravel
Any idea if this will continue for next year?
More than likely as Founders Card has a lot to lose if it doesn't, meanwhile, a good chunk of their business crowd (what the card is actually intended for) is choosing to stay at Caesars properties over others just for this perk so it isn't losing all this money for CET like many suggest although I can see it bothering those Diamond members who earned it from standard play.

Last year, there were threads popping up left and right in early January from "insiders" who claimed they knew for a fact that the perk was 100% leaving the service but this wasn't true and was renewed in January for another year. I expect this to happen again this year so your account will be downgraded for a couple of days in early 2018, but likely jump back up like it did last year after the new contract details are sorted out.

I could always be wrong and I hope not to be, but no one knows anything until mid-late January when we here if its being renewed or not.
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
You do realize that CZR-Entertainment has been charging TR Diamond Members to access the Atlantic City Diamond Lounges (Diamond + RCs) for 5+ years (with the waiver for 25k Tier Points).

I believe this is just an expansion of the charging for access.
The Diamond Lounges in AC are NOT the same as in Vegas. In AC they have full meals including carved Prime Rib and Chilled Prawns, etc.
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by skyscanner
This is going to backlash against TR and the DL staff, who will see their tips greatly diminish.

A 15K Tier Score already means the player ran at least $50k through a VP machine. Surely this plus the cash the player leaves on the table is worth some salad and some pot fingers once a day, 365 days per year?

CET already offers lower VP pay tables than most of the off strip casinos. Diamond players will simply go Downtown.

And if TR did this to their own players, I honestly can't imagine Founderscard members being allowed into the DL.

No this is not correct: $5.00 tier for slots and $10.00 for Video Poker.
Slots is therefore $75,000 & Video Poker is $150,000.
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
It's been tested. That's all I know. Not me personally. But from a reliable source.
I did *not* get a tier credit bonus for the spend for my wedding in early 2016. I had a heck of a hassle getting the people at the Planet Hollywood chapel to submit the spend to the Total Rewards desk, though, so I'm not sure if that played into it. It was also split into multiple transactions with two deposits, so perhaps that played a role.
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Old Nov 3, 2017, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by gkbiiii
The Diamond Lounges in AC are NOT the same as in Vegas. In AC they have full meals including carved Prime Rib and Chilled Prawns, etc.
having been in the AC diamond lounges a lot but not being in the LV lounges I guess maybe based on people here that the LV lounges pretty much suck, and maybe the AC lunges are better, but really don't try to pass off the AC lounges as anything that great.

Chilled prawns? frozen and defrosted tasteless shrimp shaped things are sometimes available, basically what you would get if bought a shrimp ring in a king supers is about what you could hope for.

Prime rib? yeah I have not seen this, they do have a carving station sometimes, I haven't seen prime rib, not doubting it does appear here and there, but even if it is there, it's not going to be really good prime rib. I was surprised to have some kind of decent strip steak or something at harrah's once.

I would say in general I have found the DL at harrahs in AC to be better than the ones at Ballys or ceasars.

Maybe everyone needs to reset on what TR Diamond is really worth.

I have it, but I strive to keep it, but really it's just ok, frankly getting free drinks at the bars in the AC properties as well as the celebration dinner are probably the main attractions I can make use of.
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Old Nov 3, 2017, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by gkbiiii
The Diamond Lounges in AC are NOT the same as in Vegas. In AC they have full meals including carved Prime Rib and Chilled Prawns, etc.
I understand they are NOT the same. I also remember when the AC lounges did NOT require a co-pay. But, my only point was this model of status+RCs for access to Diamond Lounges is NOT a new concept. It was only a matter of time until it moved over to Vegas and other markets. Of course, this could also be an incentive for them to improve the offerings at the Las Vegas Diamond Lounges (well, at least one could hope).

Originally Posted by mudpuppy
I did *not* get a tier credit bonus for the spend for my wedding in early 2016. I had a heck of a hassle getting the people at the Planet Hollywood chapel to submit the spend to the Total Rewards desk, though, so I'm not sure if that played into it. It was also split into multiple transactions with two deposits, so perhaps that played a role.
I am NOT surprised it was a hassle. Not to mention, deposits can make it even more complicated. Also, you have so many different properties operating in slightly different manners. Of course, to maximize tier credit bonus, you would want to target "perfect" tier earning on multiple days. Making it even more complicated to execute.
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Old Nov 3, 2017, 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by gkbiiii
No this is not correct: $5.00 tier for slots and $10.00 for Video Poker.
Slots is therefore $75,000 & Video Poker is $150,000.
I refer you back to your Algebra 1 class: "at least 50,000" means 50,000 or more.

If the player gets 2 daily 2500 TPs=5000 TPs, it means that the player runs 50,000$ through the VP machine. The 2 daily bonuses of 5000 TPs= 10,000 TPs make the total of the player to be the 15,000 TPs required for Diamond status.

If however the player gets less than 500 TPs per day, the player will receive no bonuses, so he will need 15,000 TPs to receive the Diamond status, which means the player runs 150,000 $ through the VP machine.

In conclusion, the player runs at least 50,000$ through the VP.

Last edited by skyscanner; Nov 3, 2017 at 4:42 am
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Old Nov 3, 2017, 5:50 pm
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Originally Posted by skyscanner
I refer you back to your Algebra 1 class: "at least 50,000" means 50,000 or more.

If the player gets 2 daily 2500 TPs=5000 TPs, it means that the player runs 50,000$ through the VP machine. The 2 daily bonuses of 5000 TPs= 10,000 TPs make the total of the player to be the 15,000 TPs required for Diamond status.

If however the player gets less than 500 TPs per day, the player will receive no bonuses, so he will need 15,000 TPs to receive the Diamond status, which means the player runs 150,000 $ through the VP machine.

In conclusion, the player runs at least 50,000$ through the VP.

Fine, but the substantial bankroll needed for 5,000 points in a day, is massive! I agree if you can sustain huge temporary swings, it is the way to go, but I think only a small percentage of people, can/will do this.
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