Article about Frontier Delaware pullout
Jun 29, 2015 | 10:24 am
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Article about Frontier Delaware pullout
Didn't see this posted yet but it's on USA Today's site:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...vice/29462763/
Quote from the article:
Delaware Economic Development Director Alan Levin said he was not surprised by Frontier's withdrawal.
"Truthfully, they did not make a firm commitment to the service," he said. "When you continue to change your offerings, people will lose faith in what is being provided. When I book a ticket, I want to know I'm going to be getting on a plane without the flight being canceled."
Just about sums it up if you ask me. No loyalty or confidence will be built up by the constant changes. Certainly other airlines change things all the time, but Frontier doesn't appear to be making a good name for themselves in many of these smaller markets (I guess they don't care about the blowback when they leave a region, since those people are no longer their customers... as long as they have no plans to return in the future anyway.)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...vice/29462763/
Quote from the article:
Delaware Economic Development Director Alan Levin said he was not surprised by Frontier's withdrawal.
"Truthfully, they did not make a firm commitment to the service," he said. "When you continue to change your offerings, people will lose faith in what is being provided. When I book a ticket, I want to know I'm going to be getting on a plane without the flight being canceled."
Just about sums it up if you ask me. No loyalty or confidence will be built up by the constant changes. Certainly other airlines change things all the time, but Frontier doesn't appear to be making a good name for themselves in many of these smaller markets (I guess they don't care about the blowback when they leave a region, since those people are no longer their customers... as long as they have no plans to return in the future anyway.)
Jun 29, 2015 | 10:59 am
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Local coverage:
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...ware/29327411/
Jun 29, 2015 | 1:32 pm
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Of course in this market, the local people are still potential customers at PHL.
Local coverage:
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...ware/29327411/
Local coverage:
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...ware/29327411/
Maybe Allegiant can make ILG work. There are other airports/markets (like MDT) that Allegiant has shown desire or been able to work, while Frontier has decided to end.
Not only for Delaware, but if one is in the western suburbs of Philly, like Exton-Malvern, ILG is still closer than ACY or TTN for the alternative to PHL airport experience.
Jun 29, 2015 | 7:28 pm
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Didn't see this posted yet but it's on USA Today's site:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...vice/29462763/
Quote from the article:
Delaware Economic Development Director Alan Levin said he was not surprised by Frontier's withdrawal.
"Truthfully, they did not make a firm commitment to the service," he said. "When you continue to change your offerings, people will lose faith in what is being provided. When I book a ticket, I want to know I'm going to be getting on a plane without the flight being canceled."
Just about sums it up if you ask me. No loyalty or confidence will be built up by the constant changes. Certainly other airlines change things all the time, but Frontier doesn't appear to be making a good name for themselves in many of these smaller markets (I guess they don't care about the blowback when they leave a region, since those people are no longer their customers... as long as they have no plans to return in the future anyway.)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...vice/29462763/
Quote from the article:
Delaware Economic Development Director Alan Levin said he was not surprised by Frontier's withdrawal.
"Truthfully, they did not make a firm commitment to the service," he said. "When you continue to change your offerings, people will lose faith in what is being provided. When I book a ticket, I want to know I'm going to be getting on a plane without the flight being canceled."
Just about sums it up if you ask me. No loyalty or confidence will be built up by the constant changes. Certainly other airlines change things all the time, but Frontier doesn't appear to be making a good name for themselves in many of these smaller markets (I guess they don't care about the blowback when they leave a region, since those people are no longer their customers... as long as they have no plans to return in the future anyway.)
Jun 29, 2015 | 8:58 pm
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Did anyone notice how many airlines have tried to operate out of thos airport and failed ?
Prehaps, not withstanding the local officials to the contrary that there are not enough passengers willing to travel to this airport to support the operations of a commercial airline ?
Prehaps, not withstanding the local officials to the contrary that there are not enough passengers willing to travel to this airport to support the operations of a commercial airline ?
Jun 30, 2015 | 7:11 am
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Did anyone notice how many airlines have tried to operate out of thos airport and failed ?
Prehaps, not withstanding the local officials to the contrary that there are not enough passengers willing to travel to this airport to support the operations of a commercial airline ?
Prehaps, not withstanding the local officials to the contrary that there are not enough passengers willing to travel to this airport to support the operations of a commercial airline ?
Jun 30, 2015 | 8:24 am
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If the airlines were making money they wouldn't pull out.
Jun 30, 2015 | 8:48 am
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F9 was the first time service here did work. They flew to destinations people wanted to go for affordable fares. I don't think the issue was that they didn't make money. The issue here is the amount of money they could make over time was severely capped in a one gate facility versus what they are capable of doing at a station like PHL. Flying out of PHL is certainly the better use of aircraft for F9. But I don't think ILG operated at a loss.
Jun 30, 2015 | 10:00 am
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If loads were high and the route isn't profitable, this means that the carrier can't charge a high enough fare to make money. "Full" is a meaningless term because it does not reflect profitability. PRASM, PRASM, PRASM.
Jun 30, 2015 | 11:16 am
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Correct. My full load comment was in response to the statement that the airport was unable to draw passengers.
Jun 30, 2015 | 5:27 pm
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Yes, it also upgraded PHL-MCO to 3x daily for the winter. That extra daily could be viewed to the equivalent of the capacity it offered from ILG-MCO.
Maybe Allegiant can make ILG work. There are other airports/markets (like MDT) that Allegiant has shown desire or been able to work, while Frontier has decided to end.
Not only for Delaware, but if one is in the western suburbs of Philly, like Exton-Malvern, ILG is still closer than ACY or TTN for the alternative to PHL airport experience.
Maybe Allegiant can make ILG work. There are other airports/markets (like MDT) that Allegiant has shown desire or been able to work, while Frontier has decided to end.
Not only for Delaware, but if one is in the western suburbs of Philly, like Exton-Malvern, ILG is still closer than ACY or TTN for the alternative to PHL airport experience.
Jun 30, 2015 | 8:05 pm
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Thats good news for ILG. I only flew out of there once but I did enjoy the airport, hopefully G4 will bring back service to the airport.
Jul 1, 2015 | 7:27 am
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But some service is certainly better than no service at all.