Article about Frontier/Midwest/Republic in Denver Post
#16
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Do you not remember the 18 months prior to Republic? Bankruptcy is not something I consider working.
Also, you don't know for sure what they are planning on changing. For all we know they will add IFE to the 190s. Do you consider STRETCH a plus or a minus? The whole point is that they are taking what works for Midwest and what works for Frontier and combining them. It is not just Frontier and not just Midwest anymore. You have to look at the whole picture.
Also, you don't know for sure what they are planning on changing. For all we know they will add IFE to the 190s. Do you consider STRETCH a plus or a minus? The whole point is that they are taking what works for Midwest and what works for Frontier and combining them. It is not just Frontier and not just Midwest anymore. You have to look at the whole picture.
#17
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Do you not remember the 18 months prior to Republic? Bankruptcy is not something I consider working.
Also, you don't know for sure what they are planning on changing. For all we know they will add IFE to the 190s. Do you consider STRETCH a plus or a minus? The whole point is that they are taking what works for Midwest and what works for Frontier and combining them. It is not just Frontier and not just Midwest anymore. You have to look at the whole picture.
Also, you don't know for sure what they are planning on changing. For all we know they will add IFE to the 190s. Do you consider STRETCH a plus or a minus? The whole point is that they are taking what works for Midwest and what works for Frontier and combining them. It is not just Frontier and not just Midwest anymore. You have to look at the whole picture.
Yes, Republic bought Frontier and can do what they please with the brand, but if I remember correctly it wasn't because of the way Frontier operated that they entered bankruptcy. It was because of their credit card processing company First Data withholding 100% of the revenue until after the date of travel.Indeed I do no know what they are planning on changing but it does seem to me that Republic is putting an awful lot of importance on the operations in MKE. My problem there is that Midwest Airlines as an independent airline operating their own flights hasn't existed since November 2, 2009, and yet Republic kept the branding and kept the holy cookie. When it comes down to it, Republic is risking a lot less by getting rid of a cookie than by potentially getting rid of LiveTV. If we could have the best of both world I suspect many more people would be happy. My biggest concern personally is that Bedford will decide to do away with the Frontier brand and image. This makes very little sense as Midwest is all but dead and only a shell of what it used to be.
Whatever happens, as long as the Frontier employee's don't get screwed then I'll live, sounds like Republic is giving a lot of Midwest (the REAL airline) employees the shaft right now.
Last edited by N810FR; Feb 23, 2010 at 2:19 pm
#18
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This is Republic, not Frontier, not Midwest, so get used to it. RAH is a regional airline attempting to run a mainline carrier. I don't have much faith it will get any better.
Not that it will matter for very long, but Classic Plus passengers do get offered a snack on the Lynx flights.
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Not that it will matter for very long, but Classic Plus passengers do get offered a snack on the Lynx flights.
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#19
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Alas, I think Frontier might be dying. Fronpublic, anyone?
UA has a far better claim now to "hometown airline" in DEN - a much longer history and connection to Denver than Republic will ever have.
UA has a far better claim now to "hometown airline" in DEN - a much longer history and connection to Denver than Republic will ever have.
#21
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After reading yesterday, my first thought for a new name was "Midtier". Not only is it a combo of Midwest and Frontier, but it defines the airline as middle-tier. 
As much as I hate to see the Frontier name/brand go, maybe rebranding the entire group as Republic is a good idea.

As much as I hate to see the Frontier name/brand go, maybe rebranding the entire group as Republic is a good idea.
Frontier does have better name recognition, loyalty, and customer goodwill than the other names. It's the logical choice.
#22



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I will never understand this argument. You would like for there to be less competition in Denver so that ticket prices will go up?
#23
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Fine, forget I said anything about them leaving Denver. I just wish passengers would be willing to pay to not be treated like prisoners boarding a cattle car. I don't like the crowd that Southwest attracts nor do I like their method of boarding, it just screams low class. The super low cost airlines in Europe do it the same, but at least where I was living (Stuttgart, Germany) I could pay something like 5 Euro extra in order to prereserve a seat on Germanwings.
#24




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Frontier Employee Buddy received a company email today.
It talks of changing the name to "New Air" or "New Air Airlines" (stupid I know) and removing all Animal livery. Really sad, its creating quite a ruckus at DEN internally.
I wont be surprised if it shows up in the news shortly.
It talks of changing the name to "New Air" or "New Air Airlines" (stupid I know) and removing all Animal livery. Really sad, its creating quite a ruckus at DEN internally.
I wont be surprised if it shows up in the news shortly.
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So that means we are part of the "Southwest crowd". Do you only like us when we fly Frontier?
If going on (or returning from) a cruise, for example, you especially can't beat Southwest's baggage policy. I therefore guess that most cruisers are part of the "Southwest crowd", even the ones who book suites?
As to their boarding policy, I think Frontier could learn something from Southwest. It's really nice to be able to choose a seat, at boarding time, which is away from the screaming baby, which gives the overweight person an empty seat next to him/her, or one that is next to the cute single girl

When I reserve a seat online, ahead of time, I have no idea whom I'll be sitting next to.
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This is one of the dumbest branding moves I've seen since Acura dropped its hugely respected Legend nameplate in favor of alphabet soup.
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It has a ton of F9 employees, and other loyal fliers... Plus it has tons of photos from different F9 ops...
#28
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I'm pretty sure that is just a generic name they put on the surveys to get people's reaction to a different name.
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Why would it be better to have Midwest? I would think people would prefer to keep the animals, DirecTV, the Frontier brand... If it came down to the name or the cookies, forget the cookies. We need something that people will remember for longer than the time it takes for them to shove a cookie in their mouth..

