New and cancelled destinations, major schedule and operational changes
Oct 12, 2008, 9:59 am
#46
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So, not a business destination
Oct 24, 2008, 9:12 am
#48
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Gdansk
The wording of the press release "The arrival of the winter timetable, however, sees the removal of Guangzhou and Gdansk from the route selection" and the fact that you can't find Gdansk on Finnair's online timetable suggest that Gdansk won't return next summer. I wonder how Wizzair is doing on their Turku-Gdansk route. At least Polish workers from the ship-yard in Turku and the nuclear power plant construction site in Olkiluoto should fill the planes.
Nov 19, 2008, 10:03 am
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Bucharest
Starting next April there will be 13 weekly flights to OTP. I am quite surprised. I wonder if Sofia will follow some day. Or is the Romanian economy so much better than that of Bulgaria?
Last edited by nordic; Jan 7, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Nov 20, 2008, 12:21 am
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Nov 21, 2008, 5:24 am
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Nov 22, 2008, 2:10 am
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Dec 17, 2008, 6:46 pm
#53
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This seems a bit strange. Starting next summer the Russian passengers will actually get a worse connection than today.
Added up, the travel time will increase with close to 3 hours, one segment will be operated by SU. Is this really a profitable move made by AY? On the press relase they claim that 25% of the passengers are connecting to USA.
With AA opening nonstop DMO-ORD, AY might lose some passengers that want to avoid SU and continue to earn AA/AY-miles.
By the way: have AY had a lot of misconnects on the SVO-flight to and from JFK?
Also: May this mean that AY will look into to more routes into US as the connections to SVO are better?
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Today: SVO-HEL-JFK: 12:55-13:40 // 14:20-15:55 JFK-HEL-SVO: 17:45-08:50 // 09:25-12:05 Summer: SVO-HEL-JFK: 11:45-12:30 // 14:20-15:55 JFK-HEL-SVO: 17:45-08:50 // 11:10-13:50
With AA opening nonstop DMO-ORD, AY might lose some passengers that want to avoid SU and continue to earn AA/AY-miles.
By the way: have AY had a lot of misconnects on the SVO-flight to and from JFK?
Also: May this mean that AY will look into to more routes into US as the connections to SVO are better?
Did they ever try the schedule as announced last year?
Jan 6, 2009, 10:23 am
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Istanbul
There will be two additional flights next summer. These afternoon flights will be operated by embraers. Quite spartan if you ask me. They probably had to act even before they started. Now with four flights against daily flights by TK they can be succesful and maybe get some loyal connecting passengers from/to Japan even though the middle eastern carriers are hard to beat.
Jan 6, 2009, 3:00 pm
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Yes the spartan Embraers: pretty planes, bad seats... Next summer the HEL-IST must be their longest E-Jet flight (3h15min) but HEL-GVA (3h) not much behind.
Jan 7, 2009, 12:10 pm
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Further reductions: AMS, CPH, FRA, OSL
According to AY's online timetable the night stop flights to the above mentioned cities will be cancelled: I did not check the starting dates.
BRU, ARN, CDG and LHR seem to stay in addition to MAD and LIS.
These reductions are in addition to WAW, MAN and MUC which were operated only a short period or were not even started. Sad times.
BRU, ARN, CDG and LHR seem to stay in addition to MAD and LIS.
These reductions are in addition to WAW, MAN and MUC which were operated only a short period or were not even started. Sad times.
Jan 7, 2009, 12:36 pm
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According to AY's online timetable the night stop flights to the above mentioned cities will be cancelled: I did not check the starting dates.
BRU, ARN, CDG and LHR seem to stay in addition to MAD and LIS.
These reductions are in addition to WAW, MAN and MUC which were operated only a short period or were not even started. Sad times.
BRU, ARN, CDG and LHR seem to stay in addition to MAD and LIS.
These reductions are in addition to WAW, MAN and MUC which were operated only a short period or were not even started. Sad times.
Jan 8, 2009, 12:18 am
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Still a 7.35 departure time makes for a lot of uncomfortably short connections from the early AF arrivals - at the huge mess known also as "CDG".
Last edited by FlyingFinn; Jan 8, 2009 at 12:19 am Reason: Misread the posts
Jan 8, 2009, 5:02 am
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The cabin staff do not like the Embraer as the front galley is freezing cold to work in. Biz pax do not like it for the same reason (front cabin is bloody cold) and for other disadvantages. Finnair top management has admitted that they have had "a lot of trouble" with this plane...
Jan 8, 2009, 11:44 am
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The cabin staff do not like the Embraer as the front galley is freezing cold to work in. Biz pax do not like it for the same reason (front cabin is bloody cold) and for other disadvantages. Finnair top management has admitted that they have had "a lot of trouble" with this plane...