Finnair newbie questions thread (flame-free)
Jan 7, 2019, 2:36 am
#1771
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, LX SEN, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 468
The worst case scenario for this is when one of the legs is nearly sold out and only Pro tickets are available. You end up paying the Pro price for one leg, and yet it gets dragged down to Light/Value, unless you want to spend yet another EUR300 or whatever to get Pro for both legs.
Jan 7, 2019, 2:43 am
#1772
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,602
The worst case scenario for this is when one of the legs is nearly sold out and only Pro tickets are available. You end up paying the Pro price for one leg, and yet it gets dragged down to Light/Value, unless you want to spend yet another EUR300 or whatever to get Pro for both legs.
So, in the end conclusion is that Value ticket has no value for flexibility/cancel in fact. It has only some Value to bring you more status points if you are hunting status. nuff said?
Jan 7, 2019, 3:01 am
#1773
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,962
That time never existed. Before the introduction of Light tickets you likely got Basic tickets and there the difference is around 5€. Don't forget that you also get a bag when you compare Light and Value.
Jan 7, 2019, 3:02 am
#1774
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: BA Gold, OZ Diamond, LH Silver
Posts: 553
Newbie here 
So the booking terms say "most restrictive terms apply for the ticket" -> does this mean that a return ticket with Light outbout and Value inbound renders the inbound segment actually non-changeable?
I would need such a ticket with flexibility on inbound, but outbound could be cheapest possible Light so saving euros there, but not sure. Anyone with experience in practice, or 100% know?
EDIT: in Finnish it says "
So the booking terms say "most restrictive terms apply for the ticket" -> does this mean that a return ticket with Light outbout and Value inbound renders the inbound segment actually non-changeable?
I would need such a ticket with flexibility on inbound, but outbound could be cheapest possible Light so saving euros there, but not sure. Anyone with experience in practice, or 100% know?
EDIT: in Finnish it says "
- Jos hintoja yhdistetään, noudatetaan tiukinta peruutussääntöä."
The downside is that a partly Light ticket is totally non-refundable as explained by the terms.
Jan 7, 2019, 3:15 am
#1775
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), TK Elite (*G), BT VIP, HH D, BW DS
Posts: 484
Jan 7, 2019, 4:10 am
#1776
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,178
Newbie here
So the booking terms say "most restrictive terms apply for the ticket" -> does this mean that a return ticket with Light outbout and Value inbound renders the inbound segment actually non-changeable?
I would need such a ticket with flexibility on inbound, but outbound could be cheapest possible Light so saving euros there, but not sure. Anyone with experience in practice, or 100% know?
EDIT: in Finnish it says "
So the booking terms say "most restrictive terms apply for the ticket" -> does this mean that a return ticket with Light outbout and Value inbound renders the inbound segment actually non-changeable?
I would need such a ticket with flexibility on inbound, but outbound could be cheapest possible Light so saving euros there, but not sure. Anyone with experience in practice, or 100% know?
EDIT: in Finnish it says "
- Jos hintoja yhdistetään, noudatetaan tiukinta peruutussääntöä."
It is interesting that others say they have been able to change/refund based on each segment rules, because then what is the purpose of the text "most restrictive terms apply"?!
Jan 7, 2019, 5:03 am
#1777
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
IME, if any part of your ticket is "Light", all parts of your ticket is "Light" as for change/refund rules et.c. You only enjoy the perk of paying for Value...
It is interesting that others say they have been able to change/refund based on each segment rules, because then what is the purpose of the text "most restrictive terms apply"?!
It is interesting that others say they have been able to change/refund based on each segment rules, because then what is the purpose of the text "most restrictive terms apply"?!
Jan 7, 2019, 6:07 am
#1778
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,178
This is very interesting. I have in the past stayed away from combining different fares rules on in- and out-bound segment because I've been told the worst terms apply for entire ticket.
This is from fare rules for such ticket (from a few years ago):
I've always read "COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS" as the case when outbound segment is on one fare and inbound is on another. If so, then this seems to clearly say that if one segment is non-refundable or has a hefty refund penalty, then it doesn't matter if the other is fully refundable.
They may have changed standard rules since then, or I may read this wrong. but it would be interesting to get an authoritative answer to what gices.
This is from fare rules for such ticket (from a few years ago):
Penalties
THE MOST RESTRICTIVE REFUND CONDITIONS APPLY WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS.
THE MOST RESTRICTIVE REFUND CONDITIONS APPLY WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS.
They may have changed standard rules since then, or I may read this wrong. but it would be interesting to get an authoritative answer to what gices.
Jan 7, 2019, 7:15 am
#1779
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,602
While on the english wording of my OP I just took it from my memory and the actual verbiage might be a bit different in english site, sorry for that!
Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 pm
#1780
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, LH, Accor, IHG, Scandic, Tallink
Posts: 162
A newbie question about upgrade:
I'm on the upgrade waitlist and the online check-in will open soon. If I check-in, does it affect (reduce) my chances to get upgraded? Would it be better to wait for a possible upgrade and check-in later? According to the Finnair's website, several seats in J seems to be available for both outgoing and return legs, but I'm still stuck on the waitlist.
I'm on the upgrade waitlist and the online check-in will open soon. If I check-in, does it affect (reduce) my chances to get upgraded? Would it be better to wait for a possible upgrade and check-in later? According to the Finnair's website, several seats in J seems to be available for both outgoing and return legs, but I'm still stuck on the waitlist.
Jan 9, 2019, 12:41 am
#1781
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Plat
Posts: 112
A newbie question about upgrade:
I'm on the upgrade waitlist and the online check-in will open soon. If I check-in, does it affect (reduce) my chances to get upgraded? Would it be better to wait for a possible upgrade and check-in later? According to the Finnair's website, several seats in J seems to be available for both outgoing and return legs, but I'm still stuck on the waitlist.
I'm on the upgrade waitlist and the online check-in will open soon. If I check-in, does it affect (reduce) my chances to get upgraded? Would it be better to wait for a possible upgrade and check-in later? According to the Finnair's website, several seats in J seems to be available for both outgoing and return legs, but I'm still stuck on the waitlist.
Jan 9, 2019, 2:24 am
#1782
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,602
I have one bad case of such, where waitlisted upgrade jammed the whole ticket it was not able to checkin and the checkin desk wasted all time left for lounge to recover the ticket. Finally upgraded but a totally crazy handling.
Jan 9, 2019, 5:07 am
#1783
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
Same mess also happens on non-105 upgraded tickets (even when already cleared and reissued to F).
Jan 9, 2019, 5:10 am
#1784
Join Date: May 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), SK EBG (*A Gold), KQ Plat (STE+), Accor Plat
Posts: 3,157
Jan 9, 2019, 5:12 am
#1785
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157