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Old Jan 23, 2019, 9:42 am
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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 11:00 am
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I found a flight home from CPH on Dec 23rd for 72 eur. Not bad, either. My return on Jan 5th was 90 eur. Both from finnair’s website.
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 11:21 am
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I'm mostly travelling to Asia, and as such I always find great deals with positioning flights.

But what is the best way to get excellent business fares to the US?
- every flight out of helsinki (to any city) seems to be 3 500 €.
- when adding CPH/ARN it reduces to 3 100 €
- when staying over the weeekend (saturday night) it reduces to 2 300 €

Any tips or possibilities for great prices for a monday departure from Helsinki and a return on Wednsday or thursday.

Destination JFK or ORD.
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by casper79
I'm mostly travelling to Asia, and as such I always find great deals with positioning flights.

But what is the best way to get excellent business fares to the US?
- every flight out of helsinki (to any city) seems to be 3 500 €.
- when adding CPH/ARN it reduces to 3 100 €
- when staying over the weeekend (saturday night) it reduces to 2 300 €

Any tips or possibilities for great prices for a monday departure from Helsinki and a return on Wednsday or thursday.

Destination JFK or ORD.
Two tickets? HEL-JFK on Monday, same ticket has JFK-HEL at some day further in the future, when you know you will be returning from the US the next time. JFK-HEL on Thursday, same ticket has HEL-JFK associated with the same trip as the first ticket.
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 1:20 pm
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You can fly with your +1 to the US for less than 1k each with oneworld (and sky)
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 5:14 am
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Now HEL-ARN-HEL available on Saturdays same day and same plane return possible. I just booked for 68€.

This is cheap because no need buy exARN (SEK) tickets.
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Old Oct 3, 2018, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Now HEL-ARN-HEL available on Saturdays same day and same plane return possible. I just booked for 68€.

This is cheap because no need buy exARN (SEK) tickets.
Have to ask How many same day turns possible in one saturday
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 1:55 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Have to ask How many same day turns possible in one saturday
Fast runners can make at least 3.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 4:01 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Fast runners can make at least 3.
So 25 Saturdays to Lumohood.
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Old Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by Jainzar
So 25 Saturdays to Lumohood.
Only 5100€ ! (25*3*68)
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Old Oct 8, 2018, 8:20 am
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Which one?

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Old Oct 8, 2018, 9:15 am
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What flight is this cheap?

I booked ARN flights today. Difference between Campaign and Light was 1€ or 20 SEK / leg. Well, the 312 extra points aren't worth much more but I chose Light anyway.
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Old Oct 8, 2018, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by ffay005
I booked ARN flights today. Difference between Campaign and Light was 1€ or 20 SEK / leg. Well, the 312 extra points aren't worth much more but I chose Light anyway.
To AGP the price difference was now 0€ like in OH-LGG's example. (except that he has 0£)
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Old Oct 8, 2018, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by ffay005
What flight is this cheap?

I booked ARN flights today. Difference between Campaign and Light was 1€ or 20 SEK / leg. Well, the 312 extra points aren't worth much more but I chose Light anyway.
I know we have swedish peseta but 1:20 is a pretty bad rate
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Old Oct 8, 2018, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by intuition
I know we have swedish peseta but 1:20 is a pretty bad rate
It was €1 on ex-HEL tickets and 20 pesetas ex-ARN, so not directly comparable.
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 6:21 am
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Deal from DEL:




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