Mar 1, 2014, 8:31 am
Last edit by: hillrider
Finnair is replacing slanted lie-flat J class seats with horizontal lie-flat seats, the Zodiak UK Vantage, on its long-haul fleet.
For more information, see Finnair's website here.
Overall upgrade program status
As of 05DEC14 the following have the new horizontal seats in J:
Routes with horizontal full-flat business class seat
As of the dates below, all flights on listed routes will normally be performed by aircraft with horizontal full-flat seat in business class. Routes not listed will mainly be served by the older A340s or a mix of old & new, supply allowing.
2014-04-01 - NRT, JFK
2014-05-01 - PEK, ICN
2014-06-01 - PVG, KIX, NGO and HAN (seasonal)
2014 winter - HKG (seasonal) *)
*) Original press release stated HKG full-flat from 2014-06-01. Some flights are indeed scheduled with new J, but current info on AY website says HKG full flat only during winter season.
Please note that AY can and will swap aircrafts due to operational reasons, and there is no guarantee a certain route will be served by a certain aircraft. It is a very small fleet and any technical issue not resolved in a few hours will lead to equipment changes, which will have a domino effect throughout the fleet.
Individual upgrade status of each plane
As of 05DEC14 (click on RegNo for seatmap)
For more information, see Finnair's website here.
Overall upgrade program status
As of 05DEC14 the following have the new horizontal seats in J:
- 57% of the 343 fleet (4 of 7 aircraft)
- 100% of the 333 fleet (8 of 8 aircraft)
- equivalent to 80% of the long haul fleet (12 of 15 aircraft)
Routes with horizontal full-flat business class seat
As of the dates below, all flights on listed routes will normally be performed by aircraft with horizontal full-flat seat in business class. Routes not listed will mainly be served by the older A340s or a mix of old & new, supply allowing.
2014-04-01 - NRT, JFK
2014-05-01 - PEK, ICN
2014-06-01 - PVG, KIX, NGO and HAN (seasonal)
2014 winter - HKG (seasonal) *)
*) Original press release stated HKG full-flat from 2014-06-01. Some flights are indeed scheduled with new J, but current info on AY website says HKG full flat only during winter season.
Please note that AY can and will swap aircrafts due to operational reasons, and there is no guarantee a certain route will be served by a certain aircraft. It is a very small fleet and any technical issue not resolved in a few hours will lead to equipment changes, which will have a domino effect throughout the fleet.
Individual upgrade status of each plane
As of 05DEC14 (click on RegNo for seatmap)
Code:
Airbus A340 RegNo Full flat since ------ ------------ OH-LQA Old slanted seats OH-LQB 2014-03-27 OH-LQC 2014-05-29 OH-LQD 2014-04-21 OH-LQE 2014-05-16 OH-LQF Old slanted seats OH-LQG Old slanted seats Airbus A330 RegNo Full flat since ------ ------------ OH-LTM 2014-11-09 OH-LTN 2014-12-05 OH-LTO 2014-02-27 OH-LTP 2014-03-11 OH-LTR 2009-12-17 OH-LTS 2010-02-11 OH-LTT 2010-04-21 OH-LTU 2010-11-26
Reports on Hard product upgrades
Feb 19, 2014, 12:52 pm
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Reports on Hard product upgrades
Maybe we should start monitoring indications of the "new" J seats being installed? I just got changed seats maps on flights.
I am now getting "new" J seat config for plane type "A340-300"
I also had a A330-booking turn into "new" config today, but that could be equipment swap.
I am now getting "new" J seat config for plane type "A340-300"
I also had a A330-booking turn into "new" config today, but that could be equipment swap.
Feb 19, 2014, 1:25 pm
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So which A340 is out of the loop right now?
(I know OH-LTO is hiding somewhere, but all of LQB-LQE seems to be flying more or less)
(I know OH-LTO is hiding somewhere, but all of LQB-LQE seems to be flying more or less)
Last edited by intuition; Feb 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm
Feb 19, 2014, 1:50 pm
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A340 is in late may and early june, can PM you details. It was showing as normal seat map a few days ago. I have a A330-300 in early april that swapped seat map during the exact same time frame.
Feb 20, 2014, 1:24 am
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It s nice to know that there is a progress. But could someone say which plane are retrofitted and where it most likely goes?
I m need to go to BKK at least twice from June to Oct. and it only shows A340 - is there a chance to get new seats?
If not I probably choose OS.
I m need to go to BKK at least twice from June to Oct. and it only shows A340 - is there a chance to get new seats?
If not I probably choose OS.
Feb 20, 2014, 1:35 am
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I have just checked my bookings to BKK in July - not only no new seats, but now looks like the ex-AF birds are doing all the BKK runs!. When I booked (and the reason I booked via BKK) all flights were A330 with new seats. Very disappointing.
Feb 20, 2014, 2:11 am
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So no Platinum status this year
I just checked the flights for the first week of June, all on the ex AF planes - what a f***
Does anyone knows if there are days when the ex AF planes are not going to BKK in June, July or August?
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Feb 20, 2014, 2:21 am
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Predicting where they will fly is impossible without inside info from operations.
Feb 20, 2014, 6:59 am
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Just got the information out of Finland, that AY will use only the "old ladies" during the summer to BKK.
At least everybody who is going elsewhere is safe
At least everybody who is going elsewhere is safe
Feb 20, 2014, 7:55 am
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Old Lady #2 is free to SIN, HKG, PVG, HAN and NGO. 
Feb 26, 2014, 8:18 am
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Just curious but which are the best seats for a single traveller? Even numbered rows on the left or any seat on the right?