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Mar 20, 2017, 2:04 pm
#766
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
Some individuals just love the attention, even if the attention comes from organizations which the individuals want defunded due to the individual's (or their paymasters') dogmatism/ideology. But seriously, if his hobby-turned-sidejob is financed by getting the right kind of attention, doesn't it make sense to be pragmatic and accept the offer to be given the profitable attention?
Last edited by TheBOSman; Mar 20, 2017 at 2:10 pm
Mar 23, 2017, 7:38 am
#767
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
Someone posted a link to his blog today regarding Hyatt - and it appears the entire issue, as well as some examples, were lifted from the thread on FT. Oh, I'm sure the screen shots were done by themselves, but the specifics came right from the thread.
And it's not just this blog - it's all of them. That's why I don't read/subscribe and only rarely click on a link to them if I'm curious. The info is all on FT.
And it's not just this blog - it's all of them. That's why I don't read/subscribe and only rarely click on a link to them if I'm curious. The info is all on FT.
Mar 23, 2017, 7:58 am
#768
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,611
Someone posted a link to his blog today regarding Hyatt - and it appears the entire issue, as well as some examples, were lifted from the thread on FT. Oh, I'm sure the screen shots were done by themselves, but the specifics came right from the thread.
And it's not just this blog - it's all of them. That's why I don't read/subscribe and only rarely click on a link to them if I'm curious. The info is all on FT.
And it's not just this blog - it's all of them. That's why I don't read/subscribe and only rarely click on a link to them if I'm curious. The info is all on FT.
Mar 23, 2017, 5:14 pm
#770
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 6,424
Someone posted a link to his blog today regarding Hyatt - and it appears the entire issue, as well as some examples, were lifted from the thread on FT. Oh, I'm sure the screen shots were done by themselves, but the specifics came right from the thread.
And it's not just this blog - it's all of them. That's why I don't read/subscribe and only rarely click on a link to them if I'm curious. The info is all on FT.
And it's not just this blog - it's all of them. That's why I don't read/subscribe and only rarely click on a link to them if I'm curious. The info is all on FT.
I brought up an issue about Marriott status matching from SPG, and lo and behold he posted an article about it. He H/Ted some one else. I couldn't sleep that night.
Mar 23, 2017, 6:18 pm
#771
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,737
Mar 23, 2017, 6:24 pm
#772
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,624
Mar 24, 2017, 6:25 pm
#773
Original Member and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
Programs: DL PM/MM, AA ExPlat, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia, National ECE, Hertz PC
Posts: 16,579
A friend of mine sent me a link to this WSJ Article today. I get so sick of gleff's BS. Spent Christmas morning 2009 getting 16 million miles? Why, the deal had been known for a month before Christmas morning? Sounds like fabricated hyperbole to me ...
Also, he's a co-founder of InsideFlyer now? InsideFlyer was founded decades ago by Randy Peterson ...
Also, he's a co-founder of InsideFlyer now? InsideFlyer was founded decades ago by Randy Peterson ...
Mar 24, 2017, 8:31 pm
#774
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,611
Obviously Randy started InsideFlyer in the 1980s.
But when he started the MilePoint IBB to compete with FlyerTalk after he sold FlyerTalk to Internet Brands, he named a few folks 'co-founders,' including Gary, Tommy Danielson and Ed Pizzarello. These were mostly honorary titles, based on those guys urging Randy to jump back into the IBB business so soon after cashing out of it.
So when Randy re-branded MilePoint to be an intrinsic part of Inside Flyer rather than a separate entity that sort-of made those guys 'co-founders' of the forums section of Inside Flyer.
Ergo, "a co-founder of InsideFlyer..." @:-)
A friend of mine sent me a link to this WSJ Article today. I get so sick of gleff's BS. Spent Christmas morning 2009 getting 16 million miles? Why, the deal had been known for a month before Christmas morning? Sounds like fabricated hyperbole to me ...
Mar 25, 2017, 2:50 am
#775
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
A friend of mine sent me a link to this WSJ Article today. I get so sick of gleff's BS. Spent Christmas morning 2009 getting 16 million miles? Why, the deal had been known for a month before Christmas morning? Sounds like fabricated hyperbole to me ...
Also, he's a co-founder of InsideFlyer now? InsideFlyer was founded decades ago by Randy Peterson ...
Also, he's a co-founder of InsideFlyer now? InsideFlyer was founded decades ago by Randy Peterson ...
Mar 25, 2017, 7:27 am
#776
Original Member and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
Programs: DL PM/MM, AA ExPlat, Hyatt Glob, HH Dia, National ECE, Hertz PC
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It's complicated....
Obviously Randy started InsideFlyer in the 1980s.
But when he started the MilePoint IBB to compete with FlyerTalk after he sold FlyerTalk to Internet Brands, he named a few folks 'co-founders,' including Gary, Tommy Danielson and Ed Pizzarello. These were mostly honorary titles, based on those guys urging Randy to jump back into the IBB business so soon after cashing out of it.
So when Randy re-branded MilePoint to be an intrinsic part of Inside Flyer rather than a separate entity that sort-of made those guys 'co-founders' of the forums section of Inside Flyer.
Ergo, "a co-founder of InsideFlyer..." @:-)
Obviously Randy started InsideFlyer in the 1980s.
But when he started the MilePoint IBB to compete with FlyerTalk after he sold FlyerTalk to Internet Brands, he named a few folks 'co-founders,' including Gary, Tommy Danielson and Ed Pizzarello. These were mostly honorary titles, based on those guys urging Randy to jump back into the IBB business so soon after cashing out of it.
So when Randy re-branded MilePoint to be an intrinsic part of Inside Flyer rather than a separate entity that sort-of made those guys 'co-founders' of the forums section of Inside Flyer.
Ergo, "a co-founder of InsideFlyer..." @:-)
Why are you trying to defend or justify his claim?
Mar 25, 2017, 7:31 am
#777
Original Member and FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA
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He disclosed he's been paid as a consultant for an investment bank as part of a valuation determination for a frequent flyer program. When people start getting paid by a party that isn't looking out for the consumer's best interest, there is a risk that they become too close to industry and it acts on their views in a way that make them not only less of a consumer advocate but more of a corporate apologist.
Mar 26, 2017, 6:06 pm
#779
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: check swarm
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I still laugh when John at Loyaltylobby.com deliberately transposed a few things in a hotel category list on his site to see who might copy it. Turns out Gleff did and without any attribution.
Mar 26, 2017, 9:20 pm
#780
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,611
That logic would make the founders of LinkedIn founders of Microsoft or founders WhatsApp founders of Facebook, such logic is fallacious in my opinion. InsideFlyer has existed for over 30 years (founded by Randy in 1986 according to information on the current InsideFlyer website), Milepoint being subsumed by InsideFlyer doesn't make the founders of Milepoint founders of InsideFlyer.
Why are you trying to defend or justify his claim?
Why are you trying to defend or justify his claim?
