Who is writing at Million Mile Secrets? [merged MMS discussions]
#106
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Some friends and I did a quick, back of the napkin calculation on what a blogger could be earning through referral bonuses.
We figured that if every one of MMS's subscribed 16,000 readers (or any other blog) clicked through on one referral linky, and those linkys are worth $200 each, that's 16,000 x $200. $3,200,000.00 And the sobering fact was that between the half dozen or so of us in the conversation, we'd each used MMS links, not once each, but multiple times, and referred numerous folks to the MMS blog as well. We were amazed when we did the math.
We figured that if every one of MMS's subscribed 16,000 readers (or any other blog) clicked through on one referral linky, and those linkys are worth $200 each, that's 16,000 x $200. $3,200,000.00 And the sobering fact was that between the half dozen or so of us in the conversation, we'd each used MMS links, not once each, but multiple times, and referred numerous folks to the MMS blog as well. We were amazed when we did the math.
And it isn't "clicked through on one referral linky" that pays the bills. It's approvals.
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The more an item is repeated, the more it is accepted as facts. You can make millions in DC !
#109
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I concede to your expertise. You would, indeed, be knowledgeable about the inner workings of affiliate click throughs. Thanks for the input.
Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but some affiliate referrals pay for click throughs (aka "leads"), and some pay for actual sign ups (in the case of banks, that would be an approval.). Wouldn't that depend on how the advertising was set up in the first place?
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I concede to your expertise. You would, indeed, be knowledgeable about the inner workings of affiliate click throughs. Thanks for the input.
Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but some affiliate referrals pay for click throughs (aka "leads"), and some pay for actual sign ups (in the case of banks, that would be an approval.). Wouldn't that depend on how the advertising was set up in the first place?
Although, correct me if I'm wrong, but some affiliate referrals pay for click throughs (aka "leads"), and some pay for actual sign ups (in the case of banks, that would be an approval.). Wouldn't that depend on how the advertising was set up in the first place?
Thanks both of you.
As I said before at $200 per approval , many would enter the arena and like selling insurance, exit whenn they have exhausted working their friends and families !
#111
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The vast majority of the CC deals these days are per approval; other markets and ad types may be per click or per lead. But when it comes to the CC links in blog posts it is generally safe to assume approval is the trigger.
#112
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an informed "community member" told me 2 blogs (neither of which was MMS) that made ~$1mm a year
so basically its a portion of the math StartinSanDiego described, although i dont know how the site visitor stats compare between MMS and the 2 i heard.
others using much lower estimates still got pretty high revenue figures - in other posts on FT etc.
so basically its a portion of the math StartinSanDiego described, although i dont know how the site visitor stats compare between MMS and the 2 i heard.
others using much lower estimates still got pretty high revenue figures - in other posts on FT etc.
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Which strongly suggests arithmetic driving automatic decisions rather than any assessment of blog post quality.
#114
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I was surprised to hear MMS does more AMEX volume than OMAAT or VFTW. The latter two blogs do provide a higher level of useful content.
If you are only going to read one or two of the point/mile blogs, why are readers supporting the inferior MMS blog?
Is it possible that all of the photos of Emily and the down-home style of the travel/food reviews are actually appealing to the readers? Maybe newbies prefer the simplicity of having restaurants noted as one of (good, very good, really good) and nothing more.
Or are people getting turned off by the increasingly luxurious trips of OMAAT and VFTW and are choosing not to further line their pockets?
Will this cause Gary to start planning Disney vacations and reviewing various McDonald's and Pizza Huts to boost income?
If you are only going to read one or two of the point/mile blogs, why are readers supporting the inferior MMS blog?
Is it possible that all of the photos of Emily and the down-home style of the travel/food reviews are actually appealing to the readers? Maybe newbies prefer the simplicity of having restaurants noted as one of (good, very good, really good) and nothing more.
Or are people getting turned off by the increasingly luxurious trips of OMAAT and VFTW and are choosing not to further line their pockets?
Will this cause Gary to start planning Disney vacations and reviewing various McDonald's and Pizza Huts to boost income?
#115
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I suspect that a large part of their revenue comes from occasional or one off visitors. TPG and MMS seem to be best at SEO, based on a few sample searches using keywords that might be entered by people new to earning miles and points from credit cards.
#116
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I was surprised to hear MMS does more AMEX volume than OMAAT or VFTW. The latter two blogs do provide a higher level of useful content.
If you are only going to read one or two of the point/mile blogs, why are readers supporting the inferior MMS blog?
Is it possible that all of the photos of Emily and the down-home style of the travel/food reviews are actually appealing to the readers? Maybe newbies prefer the simplicity of having restaurants noted as one of (good, very good, really good) and nothing more.
Or are people getting turned off by the increasingly luxurious trips of OMAAT and VFTW and are choosing not to further line their pockets?
Will this cause Gary to start planning Disney vacations and reviewing various McDonald's and Pizza Huts to boost income?
If you are only going to read one or two of the point/mile blogs, why are readers supporting the inferior MMS blog?
Is it possible that all of the photos of Emily and the down-home style of the travel/food reviews are actually appealing to the readers? Maybe newbies prefer the simplicity of having restaurants noted as one of (good, very good, really good) and nothing more.
Or are people getting turned off by the increasingly luxurious trips of OMAAT and VFTW and are choosing not to further line their pockets?
Will this cause Gary to start planning Disney vacations and reviewing various McDonald's and Pizza Huts to boost income?
#117
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this >
there is plenty of quantitative data like that
edit - and IB acquired FTG (for a reason)
specific target market, and 100% focus
edit - and IB acquired FTG (for a reason)
specific target market, and 100% focus
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#119
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id think "great" [marketing] implies not having to do things like that - not sure.
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Aug 11, 2014 at 5:16 pm
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