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Jan 13, 2025 | 12:56 am

#46

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It would not surprise me if they adjusted for the narrower fuselage of the A350 by keeping all the dimensions of the seat fixtures the same as the "new" J on the 77W, and reducing the seat cushion width instead. Which is completely the wrong thing to do, but nevertheless unsurprising.

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Jan 13, 2025 | 5:28 am

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Originally Posted by Vasicek

That’s really disappointing to see. It strikes me as a major design flaw on the a350.

I flew on the new 777 business class and don’t recall having that issue.

I’m pretty sure that the current 77W J seat is wider than the current A380 J seat, at least it feels like that. There is quite a lot wrong with the 77W J product, but seat with is not part of that.

Feb 3, 2025 | 6:03 pm

#48

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Both STN rotations and one of the four MLE flights look to be some of the next flights set to receive the new 77W J come April.

Feb 3, 2025 | 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Stratoliner777

Looks like the new EK A350 gets pretty much the same seat. But this report finds a major flaw — the thick fixed armrests make the bed too narrow! Is the new 777 J seat with the same flaw — or perhaps its greater width avoids this?

This video is not clickbait, it shows compellingly the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQnva-aSSrU

I did a short hop on EK837 to BAH last week and tried out the full recline briefly. It was not noticeably narrower to me. Armrest does not move, but it didn’t bother me. As with the other EK J seats I’d expect that above-average and below build people will be fine. YMMV.

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Feb 4, 2025 | 12:31 am

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Originally Posted by IntrepidAfrican2

Good to know! Just came across another recent video report and they deliberately tested out the armrest/bed situation at 17:30:

Given the narrower width of the A350 vs 777, however, perhaps this is a non-issue on the 777.

Feb 4, 2025 | 12:46 am

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Originally Posted by Stratoliner777

Good to know! Just came across another recent video report and they deliberately tested out the armrest/bed situation at 17:30:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9zGHsDUAJk

Given the narrower width of the A350 vs 777, however, perhaps this is a non-issue on the 777.

With respect, I won’t watch YouTube videos of things I’ve experienced myself. Before, maybe. Afterwards, my experience is my experience. So whatever the guy who relies on clicks to make a living says, I either agree if he’s saying what I’m saying, or I disagree if he’s not 😂.

Feb 4, 2025 | 2:36 am

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Whatever the many drawbacks of the 77W J seat may be, I have always 'felt' it to be wider than the A380 J seat. So the wider armrests in the new 77W J product do worry me from that aspect.
But based on what I have seen and heard I'll take it any day over the old 77W J product....

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Mar 12, 2025 | 12:41 am

#53

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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus

Both STN rotations and one of the four MLE flights look to be some of the next flights set to receive the new 77W J come April.

EK324/325 ICN will get the new J as of April 14
EK065/066 STN will get the new J as of May 7

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...ndon-stansted/

Mar 12, 2025 | 1:01 am

#54

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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus

EK324/325 ICN will get the new J as of April 14
EK065/066 STN will get the new J as of May 7

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...ndon-stansted/

For a panicked moment I thought ICN and STN were getting the A359 and losing F. They’re getting the refurbed J seat on the 77W?

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Mar 18, 2025 | 11:45 pm

#55

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Originally Posted by IntrepidAfrican2

For a panicked moment I thought ICN and STN were getting the A359 and losing F. They’re getting the refurbed J seat on the 77W?

Correct.

EK815/816 RUH will get the 77W with new J as of Mar 30
EK817/818 RUH will get the 77W with new J as of May 7

RUH will then have all three flights operating with 77Ws with the new J seat.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...ts-to-riyadh/#

Mar 25, 2025 | 11:37 pm

#56

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Some more flights receiving the 77W with the new business class and premium economy products:

EK067/068 STN will get the 77W with new J as of Jun 1
EK191/192 LIS will get the 77W with new J as of Jun 1
EK193/194 LIS will get the 77W with new J as of Jun 1
EK658/659 MLE will get the 77W with new J as of Jun 1
EK161/162 DUB will get the 77W with new J as of Jun 25
EK382/383 JNB will get the 77W with new J as of Jun 25
EK656/657 MLE will get the 77W with new J as of Jul 15
EK660/661 MLE will get the 77W with new J as of Jul 15
EK572/573 CCU will get the 77W with new J as of Aug 10 (four times weekly)
EK650/651 CMB will get the 77W with new J as of Aug 10
EK765/766 JNB will get the 77W with new J as of Sept 1
EK770/771 CPT will get the 77W with new J as of Sept 20
EK761/762 JNB will get the 77W with new J as of Sept 25

Note that there is the potential deployments could be sped up if aircraft are finished retrofits earlier than planned.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...8-more-cities/

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Mar 26, 2025 | 4:15 am

#57

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I was wondering how it would be possible for South Africa not to get Premium Economy when so much of the fleet is being retrofitted. Nice to get some refurbed aircraft on the route.

Thanks for this.

Mar 26, 2025 | 6:38 am

#58

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great to see the new seats on DUB from 25th june

Mar 26, 2025 | 9:54 pm

#59

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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus

Im seeing new J on my bookings to SEA in mid July, is this likely to now be permanent?

Mar 27, 2025 | 1:10 am

#60

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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus

CPT? I can hardly believe it! From E6-EBx frames to new J. I never expected to see pigs fly but there you have it!
I'm usually on 772/773 (like next week), but I'll change the routine for this.

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