I would think Geneva is obvious because of all the purchased F tickets from money launderers and bankers constantly coming and going. Brussels because of the EU there you have a ton of government money that will actually purchase F. The other two I’m sure have their own reasons too.

Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 30155382)

Or because the seat manufacturer is supposedly in Geneva

People have been talking like this new 777 F class is going to be rolled out fleetwide, yet new 777’s being delivered don’t have it, and EK really isn’t giving an estimation on when they’ll be releasing it fleetwide, saying sometime in 2020 or something. EK also doesn’t really seem to be flaunting it like it’s going to be fleetwide. I’m of the opinion that I don’t think they’ll be putting the new F on all their 777’s.

So it begs the question why, and then further as someone asked above why these routes? First off when you think about it the product its very nice, and cutting edge, and cool, and all that great stuff. But it’s terrible for people traveling together. Secondly, these routes probably have the highest capacity of paid, single person F fares when you think about the city pairs and all the money floating around on these particular routes. The FRA one is probably to compete directly with LH business travelers too like HON’s who pay for F. Stansted I haven’t found a good answer for, but I’m sure there’s a reason. In any event, I’m pretty certain on the reasoning for the Geneva and Brussels routes. All of this is just a guess, but I have some reasons to my logic.

Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 30207729)

Is it possible to get the new F through EK points? Can't find any seats from BRU, GVA and STN. Although blogs say it is.

Originally Posted by m3red (Post 30208359)

Surely If Skywards Miles dan be used for upgrades they can be used for awards as well? After all they come from the same fare bucket (Z). If / when they are available is of course entirely another matter.
(Or are you referring to ‘space available on board upgrades’ which are only available to silver and higher Skywards members?)

Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 30208456)

Originally Posted by sydtogla (Post 30211064)

If you are paying cash for F then it is a real no brainer. As mentioned before, very little award availability either as an award ticket or miles upgrade at the moment. Can't see that changing soon.

Alternatively you could fly on it to BRU and then get a short hope from BRU to LCY and it would probably be quicker than getting the CD from STN if you're in central London!