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NWplatinum Jul 5, 2018 2:31 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 29939510)
Why would OMAAT know anything? They probably just read it on here

Because OMAAT published an article saying the new F was going to be going to MUC. See the link above. The best they could do is update it or write a new one.

QRC3288 Jul 5, 2018 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 29939742)


Because OMAAT published an article saying the new F was going to be going to MUC. See the link above. The best they could do is update it or write a new one.

You realize a lot of the content published on that blog and others is sourced from FT right? (sometimes without attribution.) They'll read it here often, and confirm it with PR reps or an article, and cite that. But either way, if you're not tied in directly to the airline itself, FT remains a far better source for info IMO.

NWplatinum Jul 5, 2018 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 29942947)
You realize a lot of the content published on that blog and others is sourced from FT right? (sometimes without attribution.) They'll read it here often, and confirm it with PR reps or an article, and cite that. But either way, if you're not tied in directly to the airline itself, FT remains a far better source for info IMO.

You do realize that one of the reasons OMAAT is so successful, or for any blog that is successful for that matter is that the information they share is correct, right?

skywardhunter Jul 5, 2018 9:20 pm


Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 29943052)


You do realize that one of the reasons OMAAT is so successful, or for any blog that is successful for that matter is that the information they share is correct, right?

We're going off topic a bit here, but a lot of stuff OMAAT posts is poorly interpreted and misrepresented, though somewhat correct, a lot of it is entirely correct, almost none of it is exclusive or first posted there. It's a great aggregator, and a website I read daily, but they don't have some sort of inside scoop for most of their stories (they do occasionally it appears), and virtually every "article" is a rip-off from another site, usually TPG (*vomit*) or VFTW. Add to this the constant repetition with the 4-paragraph intros recapping the article on the same topic written the day before and it makes for painful reading sometimes, I honestly don't know why I keep going back to read it, it annoys me but equally as I said, it's a great aggregator (like the FT homepage but that's got such a terrible interface I stopped using it)

NWplatinum Jul 5, 2018 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 29943101)
We're going off topic a bit here, but a lot of stuff OMAAT posts is poorly interpreted and misrepresented, though somewhat correct, a lot of it is entirely correct, almost none of it is exclusive or first posted there. It's a great aggregator, and a website I read daily, but they don't have some sort of inside scoop for most of their stories (they do occasionally it appears), and virtually every "article" is a rip-off from another site, usually TPG (*vomit*) or VFTW. Add to this the constant repetition with the 4-paragraph intros recapping the article on the same topic written the day before and it makes for painful reading sometimes, I honestly don't know why I keep going back to read it, it annoys me but equally as I said, it's a great aggregator (like the FT homepage but that's got such a terrible interface I stopped using it)

I hundred percent agree, and I don’t want to get that off topic. But my point is they are not in the business of disseminating false information. And when they do they almost always correct it. In fact this is the first instance I have ever seen in reading the blog in five years of getting wrong information, and them not correcting it or putting out another post saying how things have changed.

QRC3288 Jul 5, 2018 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 29943179)


I hundred percent agree, and I don’t want to get that off topic. But my point is they are not in the business of disseminating false information. And when they do they almost always correct it. In fact this is the first instance I have ever seen in reading the blog in five years of getting wrong information, and them not correcting it or putting out another post saying how things have changed.

Perhaps we have a different job or worldview. But I can say without question they frequently post partially wrong information about aircraft industry/finance -related topics - something I am quite familiar with given my job - and I notice just stupid inaccurate information multiple times a month. Granted theyre not the only one doing this. I'm talking about things where I'll step out of a meeting with an airframer where X is being said, and Y is being posited as fact on OMAAT. I don't know much about scheduling so I'm sure you're correct in your observations there!

As a small correction, they're in the business of getting page views and eyeballs, and that traffic they attempt to monetize in various ways. While I agree in general that successful monetization shouldn't (hopefully doesn't) mean posting inaccurate info leads to making money, having a successful blog is by no means proof that posting inaccurate info is a BAD business model, either. Gossip columns everywhere and TMZ have very successful franchises doing this.

And just for the record I enjoy the blog! But my heart is still with FT.

skywardhunter Jul 5, 2018 11:59 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 29943310)
And just for the record I enjoy the blog! But my heart is still with FT.

Well put

ft101 Jul 6, 2018 4:04 am


Originally Posted by NWplatinum (Post 29943179)
But my point is they are not in the business of disseminating false information. And when they do they almost always correct it.

Di they correct the story about wrongly interpreting the numbers of planes stored over the recent few months? I'm not a frequent reader.

https://onemileatatime.boardingarea....xt-few-months/

S.R Jul 6, 2018 5:28 am

Back to the topic of this thread, I booked MUC-DXB for December in paid F, so I could try out the new F. I just checked the seat map again and noticed it’s swtiched back to the old 8 seat F.
Any chance that MUC will switch back to the new 77W for the winter? Do I have any legit complaint to get switched to FRA-DXB instead?
I know booking so far in advance there’s always the risk of aircraft change, but I thought it would stick as they announced MUC as getting the new F.

skywardhunter Jul 6, 2018 7:26 am


Originally Posted by S.R (Post 29943937)
Back to the topic of this thread, I booked MUC-DXB for December in paid F, so I could try out the new F. I just checked the seat map again and noticed it’s swtiched back to the old 8 seat F.
Any chance that MUC will switch back to the new 77W for the winter? Do I have any legit complaint to get switched to FRA-DXB instead?
I know booking so far in advance there’s always the risk of aircraft change, but I thought it would stick as they announced MUC as getting the new F.

You may get the change fee waived, doubt they'd waive fare difference if there is one. Luckily MUC and FRA are relatively close, nothing a train ride can't fix

S.R Jul 6, 2018 7:44 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 29944242)
You may get the change fee waived, doubt they'd waive fare difference if there is one. Luckily MUC and FRA are relatively close, nothing a train ride can't fix

Yea let’s hope. What do you think the chances of them changing it back to MUC? Would they let me change back again to MUC-DXB if that happens?

Kölner Jul 6, 2018 8:04 am


Originally Posted by S.R (Post 29944320)


Yea let’s hope. What do you think the chances of them changing it back to MUC? Would they let me change back again to MUC-DXB if that happens?

I just called Emirates Germany and asked if they could change my flight from München to Frankfurt so I get the new First Class. I told them I booked the München Flight just because of the new First Class. Emirates said, I could change the flight to Frankfurt, but it would cost 400 Euro.
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skywardhunter Jul 6, 2018 8:17 am


Originally Posted by Kölner (Post 29944386)
I just called Emirates Germany and asked if they could change my flight from München to Frankfurt so I get the new First Class. I told them I booked the München Flight just because of the new First Class. Emirates said, I could change the flight to Frankfurt, but it would cost 400 Euro.
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Yes but is that the fare difference or the change fee?

Kölner Jul 6, 2018 8:41 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 29944424)
Yes but is that the fare difference or the change fee?

I didn't ask. The moment the Emirates Sir said 400 Euro, I ended the call politely.

NWplatinum Jul 6, 2018 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by Kölner (Post 29944386)
I just called Emirates Germany and asked if they could change my flight from München to Frankfurt so I get the new First Class. I told them I booked the München Flight just because of the new First Class. Emirates said, I could change the flight to Frankfurt, but it would cost 400 Euro.
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That’s not fair. I am also in the same boat as you, and it’s pretty disgraceful that they’re trying to gouge their most high paying customers. I need to be in Munich so I can’t go up to Frankfurt anyway. But I still feel duped.


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