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Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37086657)
I'm not sure it's an upgrade, although it's really all good. The 2005 Palmer is a kick-a$$ wine from an amazing vintage; 2004 is a very different animal, Mouton or not, much more classic and subdued. The Mouton is more ready to drink (although it could also benefit from more time in bottle) while the Palmer needs a lot more time in bottle.
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LGW-DXB-BKK
Did 2.5 btls of the Palmer a few days ago, was excellent.
They opened a new bottle of it in the lounge (A gates) whilst I was was waiting. I slept the second flight…..🤣 My return flight now showing Mouton 04 which I’ve had a few times now with Emirates. What a struggle!! |
The 2004 Mouton was superb on the LHR DXB leg yesterday. Shame that the other routes don’t all have the same vintages But of course there are not enough bottles! Nevertheless some real treats on the wine lists now.
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Originally Posted by IThink
(Post 37105466)
Shame that the other routes don’t all have the same vintages But of course there are not enough bottles! Nevertheless some real treats on the wine lists now.
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I think the palmer is almost done now ie needs drinking, clos du tart was better
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Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 37106381)
I think the palmer is almost done now ie needs drinking, clos du tart was better
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Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37107438)
You might have had an off bottle (and/or one that was open for a very long time -- way beyond the flight). 2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy. I would probably not touch it for at least another decade (or two). It is an amazing wine from an historic vintage. The fact that EK was/is serving it is amazing, although I wish they kept it in the cellar for many more years before releasing it.
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Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 37108139)
Maybe an off bottle but to me it felt like it was at its peak - someone who knows a lot more about wine than me actually said similar. The wonderful thing about wine is that everyone has a unique perspective.
While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it. |
Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37108448)
Indeed, it is subjective and that is one of the beauties of wine.
While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it. |
Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 37108567)
disagree and that's a chat with my wine relationship manager but what do I know 🤡
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Nothing that interesting in the C lounge this morning. B had the RWT behind the bar, but it was a little early in the morning for me.
Onboard DXB-GVA seems to match the menu, no P2 or interesting reds but I will make do with the 2015 Dom. |
Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37109177)
You "disagree" that my opinion is the most important to me or that wine professionals that I follow say that?! Neither makes sense. To be clear, I was not questioning that your "wine relationship manager" said what he said to you or that that is his or your opinion. It's all subjective. If what you're trying to say is that your / your wine professional's opinion is different than my opinion / my wine professionals' opinions, then OK, sure.
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Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 37108567)
disagree and that's a chat with my wine relationship manager but what do I know 🤡
Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37109177)
You "disagree" that my opinion is the most important to me or that wine professionals that I follow say that?! Neither makes sense. To be clear, I was not questioning that your "wine relationship manager" said what he said to you or that that is his or your opinion. It's all subjective. If what you're trying to say is that your / your wine professional's opinion is different than my opinion / my wine professionals' opinions, then OK, sure.
Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37108448)
Indeed, it is subjective and that is one of the beauties of wine.
While my opinion ultimately matters the most to me, I also like to see what professional tasters who I follow think of wines that I am interested in (and how their opinions change with time). In the case of the 2005 Palmer, they view it as being in its infancy and having decades ahead of it.
Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37107438)
You might have had an off bottle (and/or one that was open for a very long time -- way beyond the flight). 2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy. I would probably not touch it for at least another decade (or two). It is an amazing wine from an historic vintage. The fact that EK was/is serving it is amazing, although I wish they kept it in the cellar for many more years before releasing it.
Originally Posted by m3red
(Post 37108139)
Maybe an off bottle but to me it felt like it was at its peak - someone who knows a lot more about wine than me actually said similar. The wonderful thing about wine is that everyone has a unique perspective.
Originally Posted by DYKWIA
(Post 37109859)
Well... you did say "2005 Palmer is, as crazy as it might sound to non-Bordeaux aficionados, in its infancy.". Nothing about that being your opinion, just a very condescending statement to somebody you don't know.
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Originally Posted by NYC1
(Post 37115034)
What you quote was not the “opinions” and “disagree” posts.
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How far out are the wine lists accurate? I have an end of July flight with Rothschild hoping it will still be around!!!
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