Sep 14, 2017, 7:20 am
Last edit by: Flame3601
Information on Load requests
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
Flight Load Check request
Sep 27, 2019 | 11:17 pm
#723
Ambassador, Emirates
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This shows that there are seats for sale in fare buckets as low as K, which is quite a cheap bucket (I think its the lowest Flex bucket but I may be wrong). From this one may infer that - at the moment I checked - there was plenty availability. Of course it remains a snapshot and can change. But if EKs algorithms (which are pretty good) predicted a full flight, they would probably not be prepared sell seats at relatively low fares.
Sep 30, 2019 | 8:32 am
#724
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SIN
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5 Oct 2019 - EK067 DXB - STN
Could some please check the following flight for me please?
5 Oct 2019 -
EK067
DXB - STN
5 Oct 2019 -
EK067
DXB - STN
Sep 30, 2019 | 9:07 am
#725
Ambassador, Emirates
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Location: LGW / AMS / CPT
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Oct 1, 2019 | 11:09 pm
#727
Ambassador, Emirates
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Its really quite a bit too early to check this much in advance as the load will certainly change a lot in the coming weeks. So I generally dont check this early. If you want to check on a regular basis, I recommend that you get a subscription to Expert Flyer which costs $9.99 for a month. It can very easily be switched on and off on a monthly basis so no cost when you dont need it. And you can get a free 5 day trial too.
Having said all that, the current load is:
F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
Having said all that, the current load is:
F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
Oct 2, 2019 | 3:27 am
#728
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Its really quite a bit too early to check this much in advance as the load will certainly change a lot in the coming weeks. So I generally don’t check this early. If you want to check on a regular basis, I recommend that you get a subscription to Expert Flyer which costs $9.99 for a month. It can very easily be switched on and off on a monthly basis so no cost when you don’t need it. And you can get a free 5 day trial too.
Having said all that, the current load is:
F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
Having said all that, the current load is:
F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
Oct 29, 2019 | 11:33 am
#729
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Manchester/London
Programs: Skywards Plat, Bonvoy Titanium
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My flight a few days ago was showing sold out from 3 days out, you could only purchase J. I was on a later flight but was trying to change to a earlier departure. Five hours out EF showed two seats available in Y, I called EK only to be told it was sold out. An hour later I called again to change my flight to an earlier one from a different London location but on the off chance I once again enquired about the flight I wanted earlier which was sold out. To my surprise there were seats available and after I booked I checked EF which was showing Y9 and also flex ticket available. However on MMB I could not select a seat and it was showing every seat was taken.
My second flight was a 2 class and as a guess the flight was full without the rear upstairs Y being available. This must have changed at the last minute as when I boarded there were several empty rows free in the rear but everywhere else was full. I was lucky and got a row of four to myself, but this highlights how much of a lottery checking flights loads is. Prior to arriving at the airport I was fairly confident of op-ups the whole way!
My second flight was a 2 class and as a guess the flight was full without the rear upstairs Y being available. This must have changed at the last minute as when I boarded there were several empty rows free in the rear but everywhere else was full. I was lucky and got a row of four to myself, but this highlights how much of a lottery checking flights loads is. Prior to arriving at the airport I was fairly confident of op-ups the whole way!
Oct 30, 2019 | 4:56 am
#731
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EK3940DXB
15/11/19 3:40HAN
15/11/19 12:4077W
Daily
73% / 14mJ0 C0 I0 O0 H0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9K9 Q9 L9 T9 V8 X9
Business class sold out, Economy wide open. Be aware that with over 2 weeks to go, things may well change.
Strangely enough, the seat map shows many (33) J seats unallocated (this is normal for the Y cabin but not that usual for J), so this 'sold out' may be some group booking or they keep the cabin 'empty' for something they expect. Not much other light I can shed on this. Maybe someone else can?
Oct 30, 2019 | 5:00 am
#732
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 5
At the moment Expert Flyer gives this as seats for sale:
EK3940DXB
15/11/19 3:40HAN
15/11/19 12:4077W
Daily
73% / 14mJ0 C0 I0 O0 H0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9K9 Q9 L9 T9 V8 X9
Business class sold out, Economy wide open. Be aware that with over 2 weeks to go, things may well change.
EK3940DXB
15/11/19 3:40HAN
15/11/19 12:4077W
Daily
73% / 14mJ0 C0 I0 O0 H0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9K9 Q9 L9 T9 V8 X9
Business class sold out, Economy wide open. Be aware that with over 2 weeks to go, things may well change.
Oct 30, 2019 | 9:33 pm
#733
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 30
I read that business saver and upgrade seats come out of the same bucket does anyone know if thats true? So if the Emirates website is still showing lots of business saver tickets on sale for a flight 30 days out theres a chance those seats might be made available for y to j upgrade using miles later? (If not sold prior)
Oct 30, 2019 | 10:50 pm
#734
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I read that business saver and upgrade seats come out of the same bucket does anyone know if that’s true? So if the Emirates website is still showing lots of business saver tickets on sale for a flight 30 days out there’s a chance those seats might be made available for y to j upgrade using miles later? (If not sold prior)
The upgrades we normally talk about book in D bucket (as do award tickets).
There is something called a ‘business flex award’ which books in O, but that is not an upgrade, it’s an award (not sure how this works, I have never seen it on the miles calculator on the Emirates website).
So the short answer is no, O availability will not directly link to upgrade availability.
Oct 30, 2019 | 11:20 pm
#735
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I read that business saver and upgrade seats come out of the same bucket does anyone know if thats true? So if the Emirates website is still showing lots of business saver tickets on sale for a flight 30 days out theres a chance those seats might be made available for y to j upgrade using miles later? (If not sold prior)