still not clear whether existing flights will be upgradeable after Feb at the old rates or the new ones post Feb.

If so, I want to upgrade all my J's to F now!

To be honest it won't impact me too badly as a mainly J flyer, I'll probably end up travelling less if I have to buy J or F rather than the odd Y flight I can upgrade.

Looks like QR/EY will be getting a lot of business.

The SA Voyager remodel has made that awful as well. Both my FFP's are gone downhill so fast...

I will be joining the FFP of the next ME carrier that flies to DUR (if it ever happens). Until then, I will have to go out of my way to fly QR DUR-JNB-DOH-LHR. Their fares are actually amazing. J return for $1,900 (EK is $3,400) Hell yeah!

EDIT: Just called Skywards to see if they had any D inventory on DUR-LHR in June/December - No
Any D inventory on DUR-JFK in September - No
Any D inventory on DUR-HKG in October - No

They clearly don't want anyone booking and using miles before the "enhancement". On a total of 16 flights, a grand total of 0 have D inventory open.

Can you redeem EK miles on partner airlines? If so, I'll try SA JNB-LHR.

I suspect that most people actually book flights based on things like price , schedule and quality rather than FFPs and that any movement might be quite small

But people who use FFPs fly the most...

Those that fly the most are not necessarily those from whom the margin is best

And even there, I suspect that most do not let the tail wag the dog in having the FFP decide the flights

Those that are going to be driven by FFP are , I still suspect the minority

I booked my flights on EK solely for the FFP.
Platinum has been good to me since its introduction.
Although, I will give my final verdict once I see how much more the fares have increased with the new fare structure.

Indeed, the main EK customers from the UK will be :-

1. People heading out to the Far East/Australasia on holiday. They pay the lowest fare, and know that their tickets are not changeable/refundable. There will be little change for them.

2. People flying on business who don't actually know how much a ticket costs. Their corporate TA sorts out the ticketing. They will probably still pay the Flex saver rate, which won't change much from the old Flex rate.

Those caught in between (like most of us on here!) are the ones that will be hardest hit.

I fly EK a couple of times a year, normally using miles for either a Y-J or J-F upgrade. If I want to use an upgrade with the new fare structure, my base fare will go up quite a lot (I suspect).

Where did you see these upgrade costs?

Is it the same for a J-F upgrade?

You have to log in and use the new calculator.

In J on Mon on 22 - trying to get 2 Z's now as 32.5 to F is better than 39k

If you buy flex I think its 30 to F but Y to J is 39k!

Ouch....

time to cancel the Citibank EK card...

Hi

Does someone have a confirmation/clue if this new miles calculator is based on OW or RT trips (as this looks like a beta version or whatever).

Amazing... or not, I called today twice the EK call Center to ask how can I maximize my miles... and both persons I talked with were not aware of any changes.

One of them asked me to forward the e-mail I got from Emirates to the Call Centre.... since they are not aware of its content

Ex-Lufthansa executive to lead Emirates sales team

http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...-team-1.866874

With him, he brought the worst of Lufthansa Miles & More policies: the devaluation of Frequent Flyers Miles

Based on one-way. No change announced to tier miles earnings, so take the blue tier as the tier miles earning rate.

I suspect after Feb they are completely changing the IT system with the new booking engine, so you'll pay the new, more expensive rates...