View Poll Results: What Should The 4th Tier Qualification Level Be?
100,000 tier miles (in any class)
35
43.75%
100,000 tier miles in J or F only
16
20.00%
125,000 tier miles (any)
14
17.50%
150,000+ tier miles
15
18.75%
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4th tier confirmed: Clark
Sep 8, 2012 | 11:11 am
#46
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: NAP
Programs: LH, BA, TK
Posts: 2,410
What makes you think Y passengers are 'sweaty'?
Please do not be so presumptuous. Trust me that there are a fairly large number of folks on this planet who go in paid F but don't have the slightest of consideration for their fellow passengers or etiquette on board (apart from being sweaty and smelly). I'm sure you'll find yourself next to them fairly soon. (or do you belong to them that you actually don't notice that money doesn't have the slightest to do with grooming????)
Please do not be so presumptuous. Trust me that there are a fairly large number of folks on this planet who go in paid F but don't have the slightest of consideration for their fellow passengers or etiquette on board (apart from being sweaty and smelly). I'm sure you'll find yourself next to them fairly soon. (or do you belong to them that you actually don't notice that money doesn't have the slightest to do with grooming????)
Sep 8, 2012 | 12:56 pm
#47
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New York
Programs: EK Plat, UA GS, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum, Amex Centurion
Posts: 514
Yee-ha! 
EK does have the best overall F product. SQ is still better in the air, but if you consider the whole package - ground service, lounge, aircraft HW and so on - EK is the clear winner.
So it's good to hear that this QF alliance won't break the product that I don't mind paying for.
And about F lounge being already full - I never said that it's already too crowded. But at times it's very dangerously close to it, for my tastes. In F it's NOT about being able to find a place to sit - it's about finding a place to sit with enough privacy and space.
Do I really want to share seating space with sweaty Y pax coming off 12+ flight from MEL when I paid F prices ?
Currently F on EK is my first choice - and will continue to be so as long as EK can keep the product intact and enjoyable to fly.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante.
EK does have the best overall F product. SQ is still better in the air, but if you consider the whole package - ground service, lounge, aircraft HW and so on - EK is the clear winner.
So it's good to hear that this QF alliance won't break the product that I don't mind paying for.
And about F lounge being already full - I never said that it's already too crowded. But at times it's very dangerously close to it, for my tastes. In F it's NOT about being able to find a place to sit - it's about finding a place to sit with enough privacy and space.
Do I really want to share seating space with sweaty Y pax coming off 12+ flight from MEL when I paid F prices ?
Currently F on EK is my first choice - and will continue to be so as long as EK can keep the product intact and enjoyable to fly.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante.
+1
EK IO and QF CL( or whatever their secret elite program is should of course have F lounge access, because people that earn this level of course don't fly Y, usually paid F, and the rare J. They already have the F lounge access, so it should be kept for F pax, and IO/CL(?).
Sep 8, 2012 | 4:46 pm
#48
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: 30,000ft
Programs: EK, BA, EY, SQ, IHG, HH, SPG
Posts: 670
Yee-ha!
Do I really want to share seating space with sweaty Y pax coming off 12+ flight from MEL when I paid F prices ?
Currently F on EK is my first choice - and will continue to be so as long as EK can keep the product intact and enjoyable to fly.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante.
Do I really want to share seating space with sweaty Y pax coming off 12+ flight from MEL when I paid F prices ?
Currently F on EK is my first choice - and will continue to be so as long as EK can keep the product intact and enjoyable to fly.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante.
but they would be using the showers and spa in the lounge so surely there would be no sweaty passengers to put you off your caviar!
Sep 9, 2012 | 12:04 am
#49
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 370
I agree with the above posters, F Lounge should always remain exclusive to F customers. I have been through it at times when it was very busy between 6:30am and 8:00am, and between 11:30pm to 1:30 am. And personaly, when it is busy, it does lose some sort of "F feel".
When EK introduced suites to their A/C it was to provide exclusivity and ultimate privacy, I don't see why they want to devalue the product and go against that mind-set on the ground.
My thoughts on what will happen is that probably Gold will have the same benefits. The fourth tier will probably have the chauffeur drive available in DXB, higher miles bonus, and if lounge access is to be provided, maybe to the current F lounge only, and this would come into effect after the new F lounge in the new concourse opens up. (Much like how now Silvers are only allowed in the "old" J lounge in T1).
When EK introduced suites to their A/C it was to provide exclusivity and ultimate privacy, I don't see why they want to devalue the product and go against that mind-set on the ground.
My thoughts on what will happen is that probably Gold will have the same benefits. The fourth tier will probably have the chauffeur drive available in DXB, higher miles bonus, and if lounge access is to be provided, maybe to the current F lounge only, and this would come into effect after the new F lounge in the new concourse opens up. (Much like how now Silvers are only allowed in the "old" J lounge in T1).
Sep 9, 2012 | 12:48 am
#50
Moderator: Emirates Skywards and Qatar Airways Privilege Club
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: 12R/30L
Programs: EK Gold|EY Gold|Bonvoy Ambassador| IHG Plat|HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,850
My thoughts on what will happen is that probably Gold will have the same benefits. The fourth tier will probably have the chauffeur drive available in DXB, higher miles bonus, and if lounge access is to be provided, maybe to the current F lounge only, and this would come into effect after the new F lounge in the new concourse opens up. (Much like how now Silvers are only allowed in the "old" J lounge in T1).
Sep 9, 2012 | 1:04 am
#52
Moderator: Emirates Skywards and Qatar Airways Privilege Club
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: 12R/30L
Programs: EK Gold|EY Gold|Bonvoy Ambassador| IHG Plat|HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,850
Sep 9, 2012 | 1:06 am
#53
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Denver, CO
Programs: UA GS-2MM, QF LTG, EK Gold, Marriott Amb, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 4,006
Sep 9, 2012 | 2:47 am
#55
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: A3 Gold, AA Platinum, Marriott & Discovery Platinum, IGH Diamond
Posts: 900
I took the comment to be facetious, as suggested by the smiley.
On top of that, all EK A380 F services have onboard shower, so in a way no F pax on such services, including El Puerco Volante, should have any excuse for being smelly upon disembarkation and proceeding to transit.
smiley.On top of that, all EK A380 F services have onboard shower, so in a way no F pax on such services, including El Puerco Volante, should have any excuse for being smelly upon disembarkation and proceeding to transit.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante
Sep 9, 2012 | 3:30 am
#56
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sydney & London
Programs: UA Lifetime Exec Plat (2MM)
Posts: 744
Puts me in a bit of a quandary. I'm currently gold with both QF and EK, but in the future that would be somewhat redundant. So one airline is obviously going to get less of my business (I guess it will be Qantas).
Is that what Qantas intended?
Is that what Qantas intended?
Sep 9, 2012 | 7:40 am
#57
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: A3 Gold, AA Platinum, Marriott & Discovery Platinum, IGH Diamond
Posts: 900
And what's worse - they are pushing people towards EK,who offers a superior product,at the same time removing any reason to be loyal to QF.
While on paper this is called "partnership", in reality EK will chew and spit QF.
Regards,
El Puerco Volante.
Sep 9, 2012 | 8:57 pm
#59
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: Skywards Gold, AirNZ Gold, HHonors Gold, Priority Club Gold, GHA Black, Swissotel Eleva
Posts: 21
We'll have to wait and see - I'm in a similar situation but with EK and Star Alliance. Gold on both, but if the deal with Qantas starts to be detrimental then I will have no hesitation flying entirely SA airlines
Sep 16, 2012 | 1:17 am
#60
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2
How is ending one European Destination, with the somewhat doubtful possibility of another in the future going to make QF a regional airline?